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Arrival from Cape Hope ship about March 1862
« on: Saturday 20 January 24 07:28 GMT (UK) »
Looking for Patrick John Stokes, in obituary said to arrive in South Australia March 1862 - having  spent previous 4 years working in Cape Hope.  Originally from Co. Tiperrary, Ireland.  Went on to have very interesting life involved with the early Labour movement in SA.   Have tried databases SA Maritime museum, Archives SA, but finding mostly info on "migrant" ships.  Am thinking that he could have arrived as a sailor, not as a migrant as such.  I have good amount of his later life.    Any ideas anyone?
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Re: Arrival from Cape Hope ship about March 1862
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 20 January 24 11:59 GMT (UK) »
This should keep you busy for awhile.

The 'S' surnames start at page 256

Register of ships crew discharged at Port Adelaide - 1853 to 1869

https://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/ViewImage.aspx?B=11990949

It works best using Chrome as your browser.

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Re: Arrival from Cape Hope ship about March 1862
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 21 January 24 03:33 GMT (UK) »
Thanks a lot Debra,

Great link!  Have found the "S" names for around 1862 (checked end of '61 til mid '62). The supposed date of arrival March 1862 was in an obituary/newspaper, so not necessarily precise.  No obvious Patrick John Stokes, however have found one very vague possible in May '62 - will attach snippet.  It seems to say something like "Stoate?", John,  - then gives "capacity" and name of ship.  The name of ship looks like something .. "Bin"... something, and am wondering if this could be a ship arriving not from UK, but possibly S. Africa or other ports?  Will be interested to see what anyone else can decipher.  Also it is dated May '62, so think I am clutching at straws???   Damn it (ooops sorry for the language) - I have decreased my image as much as possible and refusing to accept it - "over 500 kb".....   will try again another way...
McNab, Kenney, Johnstone, Carrigan, (Cargan, Kirgan, Corrigan), Toll, Tracey, McNulty,  Reilly, Maguire, Loughlin, Banks, McGonagle, Forsyth, McDonald, Michael,  Kennedy, Bagnell, Cronan, Dunleavy, McMullan. -  Glasgow, Ireland, British Columbia Canada, Manchester New Hampshire USA.

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Re: Arrival from Cape Hope ship about March 1862
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 21 January 24 03:39 GMT (UK) »
Trying again
McNab, Kenney, Johnstone, Carrigan, (Cargan, Kirgan, Corrigan), Toll, Tracey, McNulty,  Reilly, Maguire, Loughlin, Banks, McGonagle, Forsyth, McDonald, Michael,  Kennedy, Bagnell, Cronan, Dunleavy, McMullan. -  Glasgow, Ireland, British Columbia Canada, Manchester New Hampshire USA.


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Re: Arrival from Cape Hope ship about March 1862
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 23 January 24 12:48 GMT (UK) »
The name of the ship is Ben Ledi  :)

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Re: Arrival from Cape Hope ship about March 1862
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 24 January 24 07:59 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Merlin,

I thought the name was something similar.... Am still struggling to find my Patrick John Stokes on any shipping list - have tried similar names "Bin ...." - for ship search... might try again with your version
McNab, Kenney, Johnstone, Carrigan, (Cargan, Kirgan, Corrigan), Toll, Tracey, McNulty,  Reilly, Maguire, Loughlin, Banks, McGonagle, Forsyth, McDonald, Michael,  Kennedy, Bagnell, Cronan, Dunleavy, McMullan. -  Glasgow, Ireland, British Columbia Canada, Manchester New Hampshire USA.

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Re: Arrival from Cape Hope ship about March 1862
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 24 January 24 09:03 GMT (UK) »
It certainly does appear to be the Ben Ledi, however it was not built until 1868, and seemed to first arrive in Adelaide in May 1869.
"... Ben Ledi, a new iron ship belonging to the Orient Line, put in an appearance after a splendid passage of 77 days..."
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/108265460?searchTerm=%22ben%20ledi%22

Are you certain you were looking at the 1862 arrivals?

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Re: Arrival from Cape Hope ship about March 1862
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 24 January 24 09:24 GMT (UK) »
Hiya Maddie,

Patrick John Stokes arrival in March 1862 is from an newspaper obituary of his - in his later life he became a well known figure in the early days of Labour and unionism in Adelaide. So -   it could only be "hearsay" from relatives etc. I have failed to find him as  migrant - think more likely as a sailor - as he came from 4 years work at Cape of Good Hope.  The mention of "Ben Ladi" was me clutching at straws - finding what looks like a John "Stoate" arriving definitely in 1862 - so our deciphering of ship name wouldn't tally - if the Ben Ladi was a later ship.   Might just be a red herring anyway - not my man at all.  Feel I am going around in circles at the moment.   
McNab, Kenney, Johnstone, Carrigan, (Cargan, Kirgan, Corrigan), Toll, Tracey, McNulty,  Reilly, Maguire, Loughlin, Banks, McGonagle, Forsyth, McDonald, Michael,  Kennedy, Bagnell, Cronan, Dunleavy, McMullan. -  Glasgow, Ireland, British Columbia Canada, Manchester New Hampshire USA.