Dating of Photo -Lawrence O'Shea and his shorthand typist maybe.

[gregory tree]

Hello,
This is possibly the author Lawrence O'Shea or Arthur Lawrence SHEA 1873-1894, son of Michael and Catherine SHEA nee GREEN [see previous post re photo of Unknown Mother possibly Catherine SHEA nee GREEN c 1841-1905] the story is that our grandmother's uncle was an author who wrote under the name of Lawrence O'Shea. I don't think so though - it doesn't really check out.

So Lawrence O'Shea and penciled in underneath "The girl is his shorthand typist."
In our father's hand  "(Nin's Uncle)". Our grandmother was known to us as Nin.
In our grandmother's hand "Dad's brother. Author."

Please can you date this photo - I am not sure if the bit about the 'Author' is maybe fantasy - and likely told to her by her father. I will compare handwriting if I can find a card sent to her from her father.

My grandmother was born in 1897 so her Uncle Arthur Lawrence SHEA had already passed in India aged only 22 years. Or at least there is a death of an Arthur Lawrence SHEA of the right age - no parents name/s or place of birth though to confirm that death as being him.

ALSO, Lawrence O'Shea the famous author is named in the link and was still alive in 1919. This link is to a book by the author Lawrence O'Shea "Presented to King George V by the author, Aug. 17 1919".
https://www.rct.uk/collection/1121468/three-campaigns-reminiscences-of-an-ex-soldier-sailor-by-lawrence-oshea

So maybe this photo is he and his shorthand typist or my great grand Uncle Arthur Lawrence SHEA son of Catherine  SHEA nee GREEN - photo also attached IF that is she.

PLEASE see my previous post re dating that photo. Thank you.

[jim1]

The starting point is late WW1 so around 1917-20.
Can't id the medals.
I thought the 3rd. was the QSA but the ribbon is wrong.

[AlanBoyd]

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[rosie99]

The picture you have that you believe is Catherine is also on a divided back postcard as I believe you would like that dated too

[gregory tree]

Thank you again jim1. And yes rosie99, you said the divided back Postcards didn't come in until 1905? I'm not sure why this postcard back isn't showing the whole image - perhaps resolution is too high.

[mckha489]

Well, a tree on ancestry has that photo attached to Arthur Lawrence Shea who died 1894.  Are they connected to you, or have they got the photo from another source.  Whatever the case, that photo can’t be that man, as he is way way older than 22 ( the age of Arthur Lawrence Shea at his death in 1894.

Arthur Lawrence who died 1894 was  “Band  2nd Scottish Rifles”.  Are his attestation papers anywhere?

[gregory tree]

It may be mine or one copied from my tree as I have the original photo and I agree this man is older than 22 years. I can't find another Arthur Lawrence SHEA though and the one that died was born around the same time - I just wonder who this is then and how my grandmother came to have the photo. Maybe the story of her uncle writing under the name Lawrence O'Shea is true then? He looks about the right age then if her uncle didn't die in 1894, I need to do more research on the author which I did do originally and found nothing but the link I put in my post has come up more recently.
Thank you for your reply.

[ShaunJ]

Extracts from a newspaper article in 1913 (Nottingham Journal, 9/1/13).

There's an 1873 RN record for Lawrence Shea born Chelsea 1855. And a Thorneycroft's Mounted Infantry Record from 1901 for Lawrence O'Shea aged 45. 

[gregory tree]

Thank you. That I think may be an Uncle that someone else, a 3rd cousin maybe, researched born Chelsea 1855 and I think this one is older than the one in the photo though.