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Re: Dating of Photo -Lawrence O'Shea and his shorthand typist maybe.
« Reply #27 on: Wednesday 24 January 24 19:07 GMT (UK) »
Looks a good match.
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Re: Dating of Photo -Lawrence O'Shea and his shorthand typist maybe.
« Reply #28 on: Wednesday 24 January 24 19:24 GMT (UK) »
He was certainly persistent.

There are attestation (3123 Royal Fusiliers) and discharge records for him from 1915. He used the same New North Road address as the 1911 census but claimed to be 45 (he was 60). He gave his occupation as jeweller's traveller, and said that he was not married. He mentions being in KRR and Thorneycroft's Mounted Infantry.

Attestation 17th Februry 1915
Discharged 30th July 1915 (a pension claim was rejected)
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Re: Dating of Photo -Lawrence O'Shea and his shorthand typist maybe.
« Reply #29 on: Wednesday 24 January 24 19:48 GMT (UK) »
In 1921 he is at 11 Canonbury Road age 65 years 10 months, still a pedlar. Confusingly he has birthplace as Chelsea but his nationality as Irish.

He has a different wife:
Elizabeth O'Shea, 48, born Aldershot (but also Irish?).

There is indeed a record of a marriage to Elizabeth Keating Q1 1917
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Re: Dating of Photo -Lawrence O'Shea and his shorthand typist maybe.
« Reply #30 on: Wednesday 24 January 24 23:35 GMT (UK) »
Did you notice that the 1875-82 medical records included in the WW1 army file bore the name  "Thomas Beacon"? There is an entry for that name on the 2nd Afghan War medal roll, 2nd KRRC

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Re: Dating of Photo -Lawrence O'Shea and his shorthand typist maybe.
« Reply #31 on: Thursday 25 January 24 12:37 GMT (UK) »
Pension index cards confirm that Thomas Beacon (2nd KRRC 441) was an alias of Lawrence O'Shea.
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Re: Dating of Photo -Lawrence O'Shea and his shorthand typist maybe.
« Reply #32 on: Thursday 25 January 24 12:48 GMT (UK) »
Excellent spot!
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Re: Dating of Photo -Lawrence O'Shea and his shorthand typist maybe.
« Reply #33 on: Thursday 25 January 24 16:30 GMT (UK) »
Presumably the lady in the photo is his wife Elizabeth.
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Re: Dating of Photo -Lawrence O'Shea and his shorthand typist maybe.
« Reply #34 on: Friday 26 January 24 08:03 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Alan,

The person in the photo if it is my grandmother's uncle was born in Wales in 1873 I suspect now that he didn't die in 1894 but it's the best fit for this family in my opinion but still open to any information.

Others on Ancestry and DNA related to me, have found a Lawrence Shea b.1855 and I think born Chelsea. They have him as much younger brother of Michael SHEA - parents Michael SHEA and Fanny nee NOON. I say they are half siblings. Michael born 1838 and Lawrence born 1855. My family tree is on Ancestry and this is my Paternal side. Tree name murray-gregory username gregory_JAG1 SHEA is my paternal grandmothers line.

Thanks again for your input re the medals and the Census information.

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Re: Dating of Photo -Lawrence O'Shea and his shorthand typist maybe.
« Reply #35 on: Friday 26 January 24 08:29 GMT (UK) »
Sorry I hadn't seen all the other replies when I replied earlier. Thanks for all that info you have both been busy. I appreciate it. As I said though the person who I thought this was was born in Wales in 1873 - each child was born in a different Army camp or location - refer the 1871 & 1881 Census for Michael and Catherine SHEA. My Great grandfather was their first born Robert W SHEA on 1871 Census but in South Africa in 1881 but younger children born after 1871 are on the 1881 Census.

I can't tell much about the other Lawrence in this family as I haven't researched him but have seen him in my DNA matches tree b. 1855 in Chelsea - one is descended from him and other from a sister Mary Anne SHEA b. 1857.