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Re: John Witte
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 27 January 24 08:14 GMT (UK) »
On October 9th 1894 the steamship Chicago (Sunderland-built, and owned by the Neptune Steamship Co., John Street, Sunderland) left Sunderland en route to Baltimore. In the early hours of October 10th she ran aground at Slain's Castle, Peterhead, and was wrecked. At the Board of Trade Inquiry held in Sunderland later that month it emerged that the wreck occurred as a result of an inexplicable change of course.

One of the witnesses at the Inquiry was a John Witte A.B. although there is no record of his evidence in newspaper articles.
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Re: John Witte
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 27 January 24 13:02 GMT (UK) »
Wow. Many thanks for all your replies.
According to all of the records that I’ve seen, and conversations with older relatives who are now dead, he was definitely German. A photograph that I was shown many years ago showed him in a sailor’s uniform and the photograph was taken in Berlin. His imprisonment in 1915 would be further evidence of this.
I have a copy of his 1877 marriage certificate and it gives his father’s name as John Witte labourer deceased.
I had assumed that he had been naturalised because it stated that he was a British naturalised but trawling through the records I haven’t found any evidence of this.
I had discovered recently that he had been imprisoned because he was German and he would have been in Southwick, I guess because his home was there. Interestingly and sadly within about two weeks of his imprisonment his wife died from heart failure.
Regarding Alice Ann Maule on her marriage certificate John Witte is listed as her father.
I had seen the report of the shipwreck but so far haven’t managed to find out much else about it although I have been told that there will be crew lists somewhere.
Where were you able to find the information from the 1921 census? It’s possible that he was in a home by then as he did die in an old people’s home.
One of the issues which complicate the research is the many different spellings of Witte, invariably it will be spelled as Witty, Whitey, White or Whittie or combinations of those. Even when it is spelled out correctly it is written down incorrectly- I know because Witte is also my surname!
Again many thanks for your input so far.

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Re: John Witte
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 30 January 24 12:57 GMT (UK) »
Could this be him
Stralsund. St Jakobi

Baptism -4 August 1852
Father -Johann Carl Christian Friedrich Witte
Mother -Sophia Maria Johanna Hansen
Child -Johann Carl Friedrich Peter (1 Kind – their first child)
Born -18 July
Gevattern (godparents):
Der Fabrikarbeiter (factory worker), Carl Friedrich Meyer
Der Bäckerbote (Baker's delivery man), Johann Peter Hansen
Jungfrau (spinster), Caroline Dorothea Jürgens
Friedrike Johanna Reppenhagen

I have the full document from Archion. It´s to big to upload
if you think it´s your man, send me your EMailaddress
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Re: John Witte
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 30 January 24 12:59 GMT (UK) »
Schleswig-Holstein > Landeskirchliches Archiv der Evangelisch-Lutherischen Kirche in Norddeutschland > Kirchenkreis Pommern > Stralsund St.
Jakobi > Taufen 1843-1852, Bild 354
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Re: John Witte
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 31 January 24 21:04 GMT (UK) »
davecapps, that looks like the correct baptism record for the John Witte in question.

What a shame that Gate54 has not returned to see it.
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Re: John Witte
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 31 January 24 21:13 GMT (UK) »
Yes, It is strange sometimes
People ask for help and then Never Check to see if there are any answers
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Re: John Witte
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 01 February 24 19:52 GMT (UK) »
Could this be him
Stralsund. St Jakobi

Baptism -4 August 1852
Father -Johann Carl Christian Friedrich Witte
Mother -Sophia Maria Johanna Hansen
Child -Johann Carl Friedrich Peter (1 Kind – their first child)
Born -18 July
Gevattern (godparents):
Der Fabrikarbeiter (factory worker), Carl Friedrich Meyer
Der Bäckerbote (Baker's delivery man), Johann Peter Hansen
Jungfrau (spinster), Caroline Dorothea Jürgens
Friedrike Johanna Reppenhagen

I have the full document from Archion. It´s to big to upload
if you think it´s your man, send me your EMailaddress
Dave
Many thanks for the reply. This is one of the John Witte's that I have on my list to investigate further, although the dates are slightly out because of his given age of 78 when he died in Sunderland. It is possible that whilst he was living in Sunderland he gave the wrong age on the census, but his burial records from March 1930 age as 78 years.
I have a copy of his marriage certificate from January 23 1877 which gives his age as 24, which could mean he was born in 1853. I do have quite a few of his records from his life in Sunderland but it is really the German side of the family that I'm trying to research.
I am able to access the record that you have referenced on Ancestry but many thanks for giving your link.

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Re: John Witte
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 01 February 24 19:54 GMT (UK) »
davecapps, that looks like the correct baptism record for the John Witte in question.

What a shame that Gate54 has not returned to see it.
I have tonight returned to see this very helpful information. Unfortunately due to other commitments I am not always able to access my emails every day.
I do, however, always try to respond to any help that had been offered.

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Re: John Witte
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 01 February 24 22:18 GMT (UK) »
send me your email address per pn
i´ll send you the original church book entry
Dave