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Re: Trouble in Liverpool
« Reply #9 on: Friday 02 February 24 09:32 GMT (UK) »
John Henry JOHNSON
Born 1 Aug 1855 Tingwall Shetland
Parents - Henry JOHNSON and Mary SHEWAN

The birth certificate is available from Scotlands People and will contain additional information.
https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/record-results/148372454365bcb549daea7?check_logged_in=1
John Henry had a sister named Agnes birn in 1857, and brothers William and Andrew.

Henry JOHNSON married Mary SHEWAN in Tingwall on 9 Feb 1852.
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Re: Trouble in Liverpool
« Reply #10 on: Friday 02 February 24 11:16 GMT (UK) »
William Clarke is in the electoral rolls in Blenheim Street in the late 1870s and early 1880s.
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: Trouble in Liverpool
« Reply #11 on: Friday 02 February 24 12:03 GMT (UK) »
I looked at him in 1881. He is a Cotton Porter so wasn’t sure.
1881 3598/132/41

House no 7 in 1 Court, Blenheim Street.
William Clark 45 yrs b Liverpool
Jane 43 yrs b Ireland

1871 3760 /115/60
William and Jane Clarke (now b Liverpool) with several children including Margaret, 14 yrs.
I can’t spot them in Family Search.

William is a Porter - perhaps, if it is  the right people, it was misheard as Printer.
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Re: Trouble in Liverpool
« Reply #12 on: Friday 02 February 24 13:05 GMT (UK) »
I suspect the curate who has written the marriage record following the banns, has made an error with porter / printer. Either in transcribing into the book or misheard.

On 1861 census, William's wife Jane is from Dublin.
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)


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Re: Trouble in Liverpool
« Reply #13 on: Friday 02 February 24 13:32 GMT (UK) »
I can't see any other William Clarke in Blenheim street. It is a street with quite a few seamen, so that fits with John Johnson's occupation.
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: Trouble in Liverpool
« Reply #14 on: Friday 02 February 24 13:33 GMT (UK) »
Birth rego
   CLARKE, MARGARET            mother - COLLINS 
GRO Reference: 1857  M Quarter in LIVERPOOL  Volume 08B  Page 108


Jane Collins was a widow (Jane Carroll) when she married William Clarke  - 12 June 1853, Liverpool
Jane's father - William Collins , shoemaker
William's father - James Clarke, Tailor

1861 census
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7P8-DXY

1881 census (address of Blenheim St is not given in this transcription)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q272-1BLL

When their youngest son Charles Clarke was baptised in 1862 the address was Blenheim St. But they were not at that address in the 1871 census.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JQQL-TB2
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: Trouble in Liverpool
« Reply #15 on: Friday 02 February 24 14:02 GMT (UK) »
Death Registration from Queensland

Margaret Johnson
Event date: 09/12/1897
Registration details: 1897/C/3827
Mother: Margaret Jane
Father: William Henry Clark

(Sometimes death certificates can contain some fact)
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: Trouble in Liverpool
« Reply #16 on: Friday 02 February 24 14:35 GMT (UK) »
This is William Clark in the 1851 census.
James, his father is a journeyman tailor
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGP5-HDB

Same family in 1841
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQLM-HN3



Marriage: 19 Jan 1824 Holy Trinity, Liverpool, Lancashire
James Clark - Tailor, This Parish
Mary Anne Jackson - Spinster, this parish
    Witnesses: John Martin; Ann German
    Married by Banns by J. Clay


Daughter Ann Clark baptised 24 Dec 1826 
Father James (tailor) and mother Mary Ann
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: Trouble in Liverpool
« Reply #17 on: Friday 02 February 24 15:17 GMT (UK) »
The Clarks lived in a Court. Courts were ‘back to back’ housing in small areas off a main street.
You can read about these on the internet.
You can see Court 1 on this map - They lived in house number 7 in 1881.

https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side-old/#zoom=18.7&lat=53.42108&lon=-2.98475&layers=117746211&right=osm

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