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Death of Annie King Richardson
« on: Friday 02 February 24 16:26 GMT (UK) »
Annie King, born 1836 in Scotland, married David Richardson, officer of Excise, Ennis, Co Clare, in 1866 in Glasgow. (It was a second marriage for both, but the first marriages have no bearing on this query.)

According to http://www.rootschat.com/links/01syv/ Annie King Richardson, Cappahard, Ennis, Clare, died 24th October 1915.

I have so far failed to find
- an Irish death certificate
- a Scottish death certificate
- any mention of her in the Scottish Calendar of Confirmation (there is no such thing as probate in Scots Law - the corresponding process is Confirmation)

Can anyone hazard a guess why there's apparently no death certificate?
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Re: Death of Annie King Richardson
« Reply #1 on: Friday 02 February 24 16:54 GMT (UK) »
I haven’t found the death in Ireland, either.
There are these records which you will have but may be an help.
Administration was granted to Maude King. https://www.rootschat.com/links/01syw/
1911 - Maude King
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Clare/Ennis_Rural/Cappahard/352732/
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Re: Death of Annie King Richardson
« Reply #2 on: Friday 02 February 24 17:12 GMT (UK) »
There is a notice here in Ancestry
Scotland, National Probate Index (Calendar of Confirmations and Inventories), 1876-1936

It has much the same information as the Irish notice but the address of death is given as Cappa House, Cappahard.
Maude King is referred to as Maude Russell King - niece and next of kin.
You can view the Russell/King marriage on Irish genealogy site.
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Re: Death of Annie King Richardson
« Reply #3 on: Friday 02 February 24 17:22 GMT (UK) »
Thanks, Heywood

She did have a Maud Russell living with her in the 1901 census.

The difficulty with that Ancestry listing is the same as with the Clare listing - she is not in the original Calendar of Confirmation at source (Scotland's People) so I can't see where the information came from. Unless <lightbulb> she actually died in England ....

.... no, you say she died in Ennis. But why would she die in Ennis 36 years after her husband retired from his job there in 1869, and they had sold up all their household contents and moved back to Scotland where he died in 1880? 
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Re: Death of Annie King Richardson
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 11 February 24 21:32 GMT (UK) »
Thanks, Heywood

She did have a Maud Russell living with her in the 1901 census.

The difficulty with that Ancestry listing is the same as with the Clare listing - she is not in the original Calendar of Confirmation at source (Scotland's People) so I can't see where the information came from. Unless <lightbulb> she actually died in England ....

.... no, you say she died in Ennis. But why would she die in Ennis 36 years after her husband retired from his job there in 1869, and they had sold up all their household contents and moved back to Scotland where he died in 1880?

The answer is obvious - to be near her next of kin - her niece, who was in Clare.
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Re: Death of Annie King Richardson
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 11 February 24 21:33 GMT (UK) »
I haven’t found the death in Ireland, either.
There are these records which you will have but may be an help.
Administration was granted to Maude King. https://www.rootschat.com/links/01syw/
1911 - Maude King
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Clare/Ennis_Rural/Cappahard/352732/

According to this, the administration - with will - was granted in Limerick. So the records should still exist. Would not have been in the PRO in 1922.
BRENNANx2 Davidstown/Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens;CREAN Raheennaskeagh/Ballywalter;COSGRAVE Castlebridge?;CULLEN Lady's Island;CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook, Wic;DOYLE Clonee/Tombrack;FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown;HAYESx2 Walsheslough/Wex;McGILL Litter;MORRIS Forth Commons;PIERCE Ladys Island;POTTS Bennettstown;REDMOND Gerry; ROCHEx2 Wex; ROCHFORD Ballysampson/Ballyhit;SHERIDAN Moneydurtlow; SINNOTT Wex;SMYTH Gerry/Oulart;WALSH Kilrane/Wex; WHITE Tagoat area

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Re: Death of Annie King Richardson
« Reply #6 on: Monday 12 February 24 07:44 GMT (UK) »
Thank you.

I have now discovered that Annie's son died in 1896, which explains why a niece became her next of kin.
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