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Re: WWI Soldiers Medal Cards
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 04 February 24 11:30 GMT (UK) »
The Corps he was in was the Army Service Corps (ASC). The prefix to his number
M2 indicates motor transport.
Unfortunately the ASC operated at Corps level so without a service record there's
no way of knowing exactly where he was which I assume is what you're looking for.
The Medal Roll contains nothing extra except his discharge date (Jan. 1919)
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Re: WWI Soldiers Medal Cards
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 04 February 24 11:40 GMT (UK) »

I think I may be able to find out more about my  grandfather Leonard Kirtland b. 1885
I know that he joined the ATC as a Driver landed in France in late December 1914.


I have looked for any surviving service records for ASC men that had a service number close to that of your grandfather and I found six records. From these records we know the following:

M2/019819 Arthur P Adamson -- enlisted 11/11/1914 -- embarked at Avonmouth, disembarked at Rouen
M2/019833 John Earnshaw -- enlisted 17/11/1914 -- embarked at Avonmouth
M2/019843 Thomas D Buckle -- enlisted 18/11/1914
M2/019882 Benjamin Robinson -- enlisted 17/11/1914
M2/019890 Sidney J Rosier -- enlisted 18/11/1914
M2/019895 Ellis Wood -- enlisted 18/11/1914

Your grandfather was given the number M2/019803 which, when compared to the above, would give his enlistment date of early November 1914.

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Re: WWI Soldiers Medal Cards
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 04 February 24 11:47 GMT (UK) »
My apologies, it is only Ancestry that have the actual medal rolls. FindMyPast have the card information and the surviving service records, but not the rolls.

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Re: WWI Soldiers Medal Cards
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 04 February 24 12:11 GMT (UK) »
CHAPMAN ROBINSON McKAY O'MALLEY


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Re: WWI Soldiers Medal Cards
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 04 February 24 12:12 GMT (UK) »
You can also buy them direct from the National Archives. They used to be £2.50 but I’m not sure how the free downloads has affected this.

I’d second the Long Long Trail and it’s associated Great War Forum as the best place for WW1 matters.

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Re: WWI Soldiers Medal Cards
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 04 February 24 22:59 GMT (UK) »
quote author=jim1 link=topic=880058.msg7524164#msg7524164 date=1707046209]
The Corps he was in was the Army Service Corps (ASC). The prefix to his number
M2 indicates motor transport.
Unfortunately the ASC operated at Corps level so without a service record there's
no way of knowing exactly where he was which I assume is what you're looking for.
The Medal Roll contains nothing extra except his discharge date (Jan. 1919)
[/quote]

I have not actually applied for the relevant service record as yet as I believe there is only a very slim chance that one exists. I think if one examines something from a lot of angles for long enough then some sort of image emerges that represents as near to fact as is possible. It the same batch of pictures there is a picture of a man who I think is my grandfather dressed in a kilt. ( link to follow shorty) I am not aware of Grandfather  ever having any links with Scotland and think that he may have borrowed a uniform of another soldier at a photographic studio on his returning to England.
In the past I found that Scottish units returned to England via Plymouth after the war and I think that where the picture was taken. Has any one another explanation ?

https://share.icloud.com/photos/05bmYiNrYO0jpkdWt9JMLy-uA


Kirtland (Oxfordshire Windsor, Berkshire)
Lipscombe (Longwick Berkshire, Maidenhead)
Marsh (London, Monksweirmouth, Durham+Berks  Bucks, Wokingham
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Brown (Co Durham, Windsor, Wokingham)
Wilson (Eton)
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Re: WWI Soldiers Medal Cards
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 04 February 24 23:11 GMT (UK) »
Has any one another explanation ?

https://share.icloud.com/photos/05bmYiNrYO0jpkdWt9JMLy-uA

Certainly. By the end of the Great War Haig had had so many of his own men slaughtered that he was running out of bodies. Literally. As a consequence, any idea of local or national connections with regard to the allocation of soldiers went out the window. Instead, soldiers were transferred to front line units where needed. So a soldier previously in the ASC could well have been transferred to a nominally Scotch unit and handed a rifle....
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Re: WWI Soldiers Medal Cards
« Reply #16 on: Monday 05 February 24 08:15 GMT (UK) »
I Don't believe your Grandfather was Transferred to a Scottish Regt as its not on his Medal Cards
I don't believe he borrowed the Kilt And Glengarry for a Studio Portrait at Home so obviously not hi.m,
Application for What Service Record?
His appears to be amongst the WW1 Ex Soldiers that didn't survive the Blitz in the Arnside Repository in September 1940
There may however be a WW2 Service Record for him.
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Re: WWI Soldiers Medal Cards
« Reply #17 on: Monday 05 February 24 08:57 GMT (UK) »
He was not directly involved in ww2 other than profiting from it and
being in the Windsor Home Guard wth his second son Norman

The question on my mind is why should he have had the picture if it is not of himself?

Another question my mind is are there any lists of those in the Home Guard on record?

# I don’t think there is any way he was transferred to a Scots regiment either.
Btw Alamo Thanks for posting the record.

Kirtland (Oxfordshire Windsor, Berkshire)
Lipscombe (Longwick Berkshire, Maidenhead)
Marsh (London, Monksweirmouth, Durham+Berks  Bucks, Wokingham
Reynolds (Buckinghamshire Stoke on Trent)
Green, Stoke Poges
Brown (Co Durham, Windsor, Wokingham)
Wilson (Eton)
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