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Re: Tracing an illusive Railway employee, London, 1930s
« Reply #153 on: Monday 11 March 24 18:51 GMT (UK) »
Well done Jool and Sc00p with the incoming passenger list.
Those dates in Africa do seem to work out really well, plus the three of them home in time for the 1921 census. Thanks to Sc00p again, and softly softly.
I couldn't find any of that!

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Re: Tracing an illusive Railway employee, London, 1930s
« Reply #154 on: Monday 11 March 24 19:12 GMT (UK) »
The Stage, 6 Jan 1921.
Robbins - Wolverhampton.
Spooner - Monmouthshire & Wolverhampton.
Warner & Loundes - Dudley/West Bromwich.
Dod(g)son - Heysham/Liverpool/Wolverhampton

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Re: Tracing an illusive Railway employee, London, 1930s
« Reply #155 on: Monday 11 March 24 19:21 GMT (UK) »
 Possibly Ellen Amelia Spiers nee' Tonks

1881 ref 2994 52 7


TONKS, ELEANOR  AMELIA     DEXTER 
GRO Reference: 1871  D Quarter in BIRMINGHAM  Volume 06D  Page 146

SPIERS, ELEANOR  AMELIA     78 
GRO Reference: 1953  M Quarter in BOURNEMOUTH  Volume 06B  Page 245

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Re: Tracing an illusive Railway employee, London, 1930s
« Reply #156 on: Monday 11 March 24 19:33 GMT (UK) »
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Deaths Mar 1976   
SPIERS    IDA NELLIE    12FE1892    POOLE    23   1083

Now we have Bournmouth and Poole


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Re: Tracing an illusive Railway employee, London, 1930s
« Reply #157 on: Monday 11 March 24 19:50 GMT (UK) »
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Deaths Mar 1976   
SPIERS    IDA NELLIE    12FE1892    POOLE    23   1083

Now we have Bournmouth and Poole

And....

Deaths 1964
Albert Edward Spiers Age 95 (b 1869)
GRO Reference: 1964  2Q in Bournemouth  Volume 6B  Page 163

(Albert E Spiers b 1869 with Grace and Ida in 1939).

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Re: Tracing an illusive Railway employee, London, 1930s
« Reply #158 on: Monday 11 March 24 20:10 GMT (UK) »
Curiosity got the better of me

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Re: Tracing an illusive Railway employee, London, 1930s
« Reply #159 on: Monday 11 March 24 22:01 GMT (UK) »
See: https://maps.nls.uk/view/105989608

West Cliff Road runs across the centre, across the top end of the Middle Chine valley.  Substantial detached villas.  Perhaps used as a hotel, managed by Ida.

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Re: Tracing an illusive Railway employee, London, 1930s
« Reply #160 on: Tuesday 12 March 24 01:54 GMT (UK) »
Not the sharpest picture but here they are, The June Sisters.
(Photo 5 at the bottom). 
Robbins - Wolverhampton.
Spooner - Monmouthshire & Wolverhampton.
Warner & Loundes - Dudley/West Bromwich.
Dod(g)son - Heysham/Liverpool/Wolverhampton

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Re: Tracing an illusive Railway employee, London, 1930s
« Reply #161 on: Tuesday 12 March 24 07:44 GMT (UK) »
Hi all interested parties.

I spent yesterday talking to my Mother to see if any memories could be unlocked. Nothing significant, only the following:

1. For some reason, she thought for most of her life that he originally came from the Birmingham area (Aston rings a bell), but on reflection she's not sure and it's just as likely this could be just where he and Madge (somehow) might have met. She never really knew if they originally met here, or in London.

2. She recalls sometime on the late 50s that Madge dropped into a rare conversation that Alf came from a 'well to do' family and was disinherited. Intriguing, but no further info.

3. Apparently Alf was quite 'pally' with Flanagan and Allen and she recalls a specific occasion (age about 5 or 6) being taken to some pub or club while 'dad and his friends' were drinking.

4. Madge at some stage during her final years in another moment of apparent lucidity claimed Alf had (or knew?) two sisters who had a stage act called the Dolly Sisters - or some permutation of 'Dolly'. This seems strange. There was a very famous Dolly Sisters duo at the time, so if this can be accepted as true, they couldn't use that name. So perhaps a tribute/copy act - maybe this is the connection to F&A?  Or did he get to know them as they used the dining cars travelling to various theatres? Probably a Red herring, but who knows? 

Bob

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Now to complicate matters. It is just possible that Wilson was an assumed name. 'Madge' suffered from Alzheimer's and in a moment of lucidity, blurted out 'you won't find him - he was a Speers). Variants of Speirs/Spiers/Spears - plural and singular have so far not produced anything. If it's true, did he use this 'given name' for official documentation and or employment?

There are always "small nuggets" . I had exactly the same from an aunt in my own research a few years back.

Do other's sense we have found Alfred Spiers/Albert Wilson via a very long and complicated route through "family word of mouth", and various documentation?

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