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Offline Lisa in California

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Re: Thomas Murray
« Reply #9 on: Friday 16 February 24 01:53 GMT (UK) »
You most likely already know this, but on the 1913 passenger list, his contact may have been
Rev. Brown, Sacred Heart College(?)
  (The details appear to be for Thomas. I believe the institution is Sacred Heart College.)

He was recorded on the passenger list as being a student. But, I wonder if there is any possibility that he could have taught at the school or a school in Denver?

Denver, Colorado, City Directory, 1914
Thomas P Murray
Street Address: 4142 W 50th av
Residence Place: Denver, Colorado, USA
Occupation: Teacher
  There were no other Murrays living at this address in 1914

It appears that Thomas P Murray was only at this address in 1914. However, there was another Murray who was a teacher in 1914:
Bernard Murray, prof, College of the Sacred Heart (no home address given)
Could Bernard and this Thomas P be related, or maybe it was just coincidental that they were both teachers?

4142 W 50th av is one mile from the college (now known as Regis University).

There were no Thomas P. Murrays in the 1913 or 1915 Denver directories.  There were no Thomas Murrays in the 1913 or 1915 Denver directories who had the occupation of teacher.

Added: Sacred Heart was a Catholic university.
1924 Denver Directory
Rev. Bernard J. Murray, prof, Regis College
Ellison: Co. Wicklow/Canada       Fowley: Sligo/Canada       Furnival: Lancashire/Canada       Ibbotson: Sheffield/Canada       Lee/DeJongh: Lancashire & Cheshire       Mumford: Essex/Canada       Ovens: Ireland/Canada       Sarge: Yorkshire/Canada             Stuart: Sligo/Canada       Sullivan: Co. Clare/Canada      Vaus: Sussex/Surrey      Wakefield: Tuam or Ballinasloe, Ireland              (Surname: Originated/Place Last Lived)  (Canadians lived in Ontario)

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Re: Thomas Murray
« Reply #10 on: Friday 16 February 24 07:37 GMT (UK) »
Thomas (P) Murray’s name was not included in the Register of Students, 1913-1914, nor found in the document.

https://epublications.regis.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1039&context=bulletinsandcatalogs
    Note:  I do not know if the link is a “trusted site”.
Ellison: Co. Wicklow/Canada       Fowley: Sligo/Canada       Furnival: Lancashire/Canada       Ibbotson: Sheffield/Canada       Lee/DeJongh: Lancashire & Cheshire       Mumford: Essex/Canada       Ovens: Ireland/Canada       Sarge: Yorkshire/Canada             Stuart: Sligo/Canada       Sullivan: Co. Clare/Canada      Vaus: Sussex/Surrey      Wakefield: Tuam or Ballinasloe, Ireland              (Surname: Originated/Place Last Lived)  (Canadians lived in Ontario)

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Re: Thomas Murray
« Reply #11 on: Friday 16 February 24 10:12 GMT (UK) »
You most likely already know this, but on the 1913 passenger list, his contact may have been
Rev. Brown, Sacred Heart College(?)
  (The details appear to be for Thomas. I believe the institution is Sacred Heart College.)

He was recorded on the passenger list as being a student. But, I wonder if there is any possibility that he could have taught at the school or a school in Denver?

Denver, Colorado, City Directory, 1914
Thomas P Murray
Street Address: 4142 W 50th av
Residence Place: Denver, Colorado, USA
Occupation: Teacher
  There were no other Murrays living at this address in 1914

It appears that Thomas P Murray was only at this address in 1914. However, there was another Murray who was a teacher in 1914:
Bernard Murray, prof, College of the Sacred Heart (no home address given)
Could Bernard and this Thomas P be related, or maybe it was just coincidental that they were both teachers?

4142 W 50th av is one mile from the college (now known as Regis University).

There were no Thomas P. Murrays in the 1913 or 1915 Denver directories.  There were no Thomas Murrays in the 1913 or 1915 Denver directories who had the occupation of teacher.

Added: Sacred Heart was a Catholic university.
1924 Denver Directory
Rev. Bernard J. Murray, prof, Regis College
Thank you. Looks like a possibility I hadnt noticed Student on ship manifest. Any record of him after 1914?

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Re: Thomas Murray
« Reply #12 on: Friday 16 February 24 10:20 GMT (UK) »
I’ve not yet found that Thomas after 1914.

A Patrick Murray’s WWI Draft Reg Card, Seattle, Washington, can be ruled out…he was born July 1, 1890 but he was born in Wexford, Ireland and had brown eyes (according to your Patrick’s passenger list, he had blue eyes).  I realize your man is Thomas Patrick, but this man’s birthdate caught my eye.

I’ve not yet found Thomas in Canada.
Ellison: Co. Wicklow/Canada       Fowley: Sligo/Canada       Furnival: Lancashire/Canada       Ibbotson: Sheffield/Canada       Lee/DeJongh: Lancashire & Cheshire       Mumford: Essex/Canada       Ovens: Ireland/Canada       Sarge: Yorkshire/Canada             Stuart: Sligo/Canada       Sullivan: Co. Clare/Canada      Vaus: Sussex/Surrey      Wakefield: Tuam or Ballinasloe, Ireland              (Surname: Originated/Place Last Lived)  (Canadians lived in Ontario)


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Re: Thomas Murray
« Reply #13 on: Friday 16 February 24 10:23 GMT (UK) »
I’ve not yet found this man’s (birth) details…

Thomas Patrick Murray, Roman Catholic
Death Date: 2 June 1916
Rank: Private
Unit: Royal Canadian Regiment
Service Number: 477624

Added:. Not your man.  This Thomas was born on 2 October, 1888, Liverpool, England.
Ellison: Co. Wicklow/Canada       Fowley: Sligo/Canada       Furnival: Lancashire/Canada       Ibbotson: Sheffield/Canada       Lee/DeJongh: Lancashire & Cheshire       Mumford: Essex/Canada       Ovens: Ireland/Canada       Sarge: Yorkshire/Canada             Stuart: Sligo/Canada       Sullivan: Co. Clare/Canada      Vaus: Sussex/Surrey      Wakefield: Tuam or Ballinasloe, Ireland              (Surname: Originated/Place Last Lived)  (Canadians lived in Ontario)

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Re: Thomas Murray
« Reply #14 on: Friday 16 February 24 10:40 GMT (UK) »
Apologies for leaving, but I’m on California time.  I will drop in again “tomorrow”.
Ellison: Co. Wicklow/Canada       Fowley: Sligo/Canada       Furnival: Lancashire/Canada       Ibbotson: Sheffield/Canada       Lee/DeJongh: Lancashire & Cheshire       Mumford: Essex/Canada       Ovens: Ireland/Canada       Sarge: Yorkshire/Canada             Stuart: Sligo/Canada       Sullivan: Co. Clare/Canada      Vaus: Sussex/Surrey      Wakefield: Tuam or Ballinasloe, Ireland              (Surname: Originated/Place Last Lived)  (Canadians lived in Ontario)

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Re: Thomas Murray
« Reply #15 on: Friday 16 February 24 11:02 GMT (UK) »
Haven’t left yet…

The age is slightly out, but…. It is the correct age (too late at night to do the math)  ;)

Burial permit - May 19, 1917
Thomas P. Murray, 26 (age?), 5036 Tennyson Street
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01t02/


1916 Denver Directory
Thomas P. Murray, r 5036 Tennyson Street (no occupation listed)

1917 Denver Directory
Thomas P. Murray, rms 5036 Tennyson Street

Added:  5036 Tennyson is about five blocks away from 4142 W 50th av. 
Ellison: Co. Wicklow/Canada       Fowley: Sligo/Canada       Furnival: Lancashire/Canada       Ibbotson: Sheffield/Canada       Lee/DeJongh: Lancashire & Cheshire       Mumford: Essex/Canada       Ovens: Ireland/Canada       Sarge: Yorkshire/Canada             Stuart: Sligo/Canada       Sullivan: Co. Clare/Canada      Vaus: Sussex/Surrey      Wakefield: Tuam or Ballinasloe, Ireland              (Surname: Originated/Place Last Lived)  (Canadians lived in Ontario)

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Re: Thomas Murray
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 17 February 24 10:37 GMT (UK) »
Haven’t left yet…

The age is slightly out, but…. It is the correct age (too late at night to do the math)  ;)

Burial permit - May 19, 1917
Thomas P. Murray, 26 (age?), 5036 Tennyson Street
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01t02/


1916 Denver Directory
Thomas P. Murray, r 5036 Tennyson Street (no occupation listed)

1917 Denver Directory
Thomas P. Murray, rms 5036 Tennyson Street

Added:  5036 Tennyson is about five blocks away from 4142 W 50th av. 
Thank you Lisa would there be a Death Record available that may show his parents names? :)

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Re: Thomas Murray
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 17 February 24 19:07 GMT (UK) »
Interesting find Lisa.    :)  Wondered if there was a connection to the priest hood - same as Bernard J Murray ?

Not sure there are Colorado death records on line  :'(

Sandra

Can't have been related but may have known each other !!

Casper Star-Tribune
Casper, Wyoming •
Mon, 27 Dec 1971
Page 8

https://www.newspapers.com/article/casper-star-tribune/141263929/
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