Parish records for La Châtaigneraie ?

[Zefiro]

Lots of other cool things here if anyone else is looking for Protestant ancestors in the region:

https://archives-deux-sevres-vienne.fr/archive/fonds/FRAD086_3J/view:1009

In particular the typed document "six cents procédures et arrêts anti-protestante en Poitou" is enlightening (no sign of any of my crew in there thus far but what a read.)

What an interesting collection! Thank you for that.

[JenNZL]

Can anyone help to decipher this? I think it's the marriage of Pierre Mandineau, son of Pierre Mandineau et Marguerite Ruaud, who would (if that's the case) potentially be the brother of Jean.

I can pick out a word here and there but I'm struggling to decipher the entirety. Does anyone have good eyes for this kind of thing?

https://etatcivil-archives.vendee.fr/ark:/22574/s00603ca81a4a614/603ca81b8e689

(it's p 437 / 489, in case the link doesn't go to the specific spot)

[JenNZL]

Ah. Another one. For Jean, in La Châtaigneraie in 1756, by which point my Jean is in London. Womp womp. (Though again, I'm struggling to read all the details. What kind of document am I looking at here? It seems to be very different to what I'd usually expect re a marriage doc in the parish registers.)

Perhaps this isn't the right family after all. :-(

https://etatcivil-archives.vendee.fr/ark:/22574/s006039184fd38a6/6039184feab0a

[Zefiro]

Ah. Another one. For Jean, in La Châtaigneraie in 1756, by which point my Jean is in London. Womp womp. (Though again, I'm struggling to read all the details. What kind of document am I looking at here? It seems to be very different to what I'd usually expect re a marriage doc in the parish registers.)

Perhaps this isn't the right family after all. :-(

https://etatcivil-archives.vendee.fr/ark:/22574/s006039184fd38a6/6039184feab0a

contrat de mariage de Jean Mandineau et Marguerite Granges du 11 janvier 1756
Jean is widower of Marie Anne Allaire
Marguerite is widow of first Pierre Ripaud, later of Jean Jozeau

[JenNZL]

thank you!

Back to the drawing board for me then, I guess. Unless this is of course a different Jean to the Jean who is born in La Châtaigneraie to Pierre Mandineau and Marguerite Ruad.

I could try to hunt down those earlier marriages I suppose and see if they have the details of his parents, and link from there.

Do you know why there would be a contract of marriage rather than the usual kind of entry in the parish records?

[JenNZL]

Aha! Looks like there's also a parish record?

https://etatcivil-archives.vendee.fr/ark:/22574/s005dd2a9aa35586/5df77925f1f50

[Zefiro]

Do you know why there would be a contract of marriage rather than the usual kind of entry in the parish records?

Parish records relate to the church ceremony, so there should be a parish record.
This contract is between the 2 families and is purely civil, i.e. an arrangement that describes what each partner (+ family) 'gives' and 'gets'.

[JenNZL]

Oh thanks! I didn't realise that -- I've not come across that kind of doc before. Thanks for the intel!

[JenNZL]

Ah! I'm just starting to put things together here. This must be where the reference to La Châtaigneraie comes from:

https://archive.org/details/livredestesmoign2116egli/page/186/mode/2up?view=theater&q=mand

(the last line on p 186; also referenced here, in the document I linked to in the first post):

https://archives-deux-sevres-vienne.fr/ark:/28387/vtac9e068e51c0cee53/daoloc/0/1?id=https%3A%2F%2Farchives-deux-sevres-vienne.fr%2Fark%3A%2F28387%2Fvtac9e068e51c0cee53%2Fcanvas%2F0%2F96&vx=4252.43&vy=-1455.12&vr=0&vz=5.47291

I never would have made the connection between "Mandnos" in the list of Témoinages and "Mandineau" without that.