stuck for a birth

[suzi600]

Wow! .Thank you all for such quick reply`s  , really appreciate it. The birth I am looking for is Mary Sweeney around 1857 . I suppose Leigh as that is where she married 1874 and died 1895 (Lancashire BMD}. John McHugh wed Jane Brannen 1895 in Wigan and Walter , John and Mary are from her previous marriage to Malcolm Scott

[suzi600]

A lovely photo of Letterewe Street

https://www.rootschat.com/links/01t06/

Nice one it is a good photo , I saw this one last November (last comment) . When researching I tend to look for pictures of where they lived

[suzi600]

My Gt Grandfather John McHugh born Co Mayo 1854/5 wed Jane Brannen (late Scott) 1895 in Wigan and they are both widowed .

Now for ages I have looked for marriage info on John and found a maybe . I am using Lancashire  B.M.D. , she is Mary Sweeney from Leigh , the marriage is in 1874 Leigh and a death in 1895 when she was 38 .

I have also found a birth in Leigh in 1858 with mother`s maiden name of Conlon but not anywhere else to confirm .

This could well be John on 1901 & 1891 census with mother in law Bridget SWEENEY and married to Mary

Piece   3589
Folio   32
Page number   1

John Mc Hugh 46 Head Wid'r born Leigh Lancashire
William Mc Hugh 25 Son
Mary Mc Hugh 15 Daughter
Annie Mc Hugh   12   Daughter
Thomas Mc Hugh 5 Son
Mary Mc Hugh 51 Sister

Piece   3084
Folio   91

John Mc Hugh 37 Head Born Leigh Lancashire occ general Labourer
Mary Mc Hugh   35   Wife born Ireland
William Mc Hugh 15   Son born Leigh
Bridget Mc Hugh 13   Daughter. ditto
Patrick Mc Hugh 11   Son        ditto
Maggie Mc Hugh 9   Daughter ditto
Mary Mc Hugh 5   Daughter         ditto
Annie Mc Hugh 2   Daughter ditto
Bridget Sweeney 65   Mother-in-law Ireland
Mary  ditto.          5   Visitor

MCHUGH, MARGARET       mmn SWEENAY 
GRO Reference: 1881  D Quarter in LEIGH  Volume 08C  Page 219

and 1881
Piece   3802
Folio   112
Page number   52

John Mc Hugh 26 Head born Leigh Lancashire
Mary Mc Hugh 25 Wife born Ireland
William Mc Hugh 5 Son
Bridget Mc Hugh 3 Daughter
Patrick Mc Hugh 1 Son
Mary Mc Hugh 30 Sister b Ireland
James Colonough 24 Lodger bIreland

Thanks for this but John was born in Ireland . He was known in the family as being very strict and accent , I did see a birth in Ireland of a Mary Sweeney (Maria , it`s in Latin ) 

[Dundee]

As it has been established that your John was not married to Mary SWEENEY, there is another marriage in 1882 to a Mary DONNELLY at Salford, with the father named as Patrick.

https://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Search/indexp.html

There are around 40 marriages in Lancashire for men of the same name in the expected timeframe.  He may have married in Ireland.

Debra 

[Ladyhawk]

Stuck for a birth - whose birth are we supposed to be looking for?

The 1895 marriage cert is on a family tree, John is aged 40, a coal miner, father Patrick is deceased and a general labourer.  His address was 21 Letterewe Street, Wigan.

Thanks for posting those details - on one of the public trees it says father Patrick McHugh born c1813 died 1888 Wigan - no further details

Have you found John in 1881 & 1891 census to see if he is married and who his wife is?

suzi600 - As asked do you have John on either of these census years?

Have brought forward the 1901 census they are living  at 31, Kay Street, Blackburn, Lancashire
John's occupation Sanitary pipe maker.

Who is sister in law Ann Gorton born Liverpool ?
Edited to add I think Ann is Jane’s older sister

1901 census with wife Jane

Piece   3915
Folio   29
Page number   10
John Mc Hugh   48   Head born Ireland
Jane Mc Hugh 42 Wife
Walter Scott 16 Stepson
John Scott 13 Stepson
Mary Scott 11 Stepdaughter
Cath Mc Hugh 5 Daughter
Ann Gorton 58 Sister-in-law

[heywood]

I see you have edited your post now. 

Ann Gorton may well be Ann Brennan.

Lancashire BMD
Marriage 1876
Thurston Gorton and Ann Luttrel

They are at 1881 4183 /92/15
Thurston and Annie Gorton

Birth 1868
Mary Jane Luttrel mmn Brinnan b Wigan

[heywood]

Just to round the previous post
Mary Jane Brenan, 13 yrs b Wigan is with grandparents, Moses and Mary in Blackburn in 1881 4187 /84/31

[Ladyhawk]

I see you have edited your post now. 

Ann Gorton may well be Ann Brennan.

Lancashire BMD
Marriage 1876
Thurston Gorton and Ann Luttrel

They are at 1881 4183 /92/15
Thurston and Annie Gorton

Birth 1868
Mary Jane Luttrel mmn Brinnan b Wigan

I did Heywood - I was wondering if there might have been a link to John McHugh and they were together on 1891 census - then realised she was born Lancashire   

1901c John born Ireland 31 Kay Street Blackburn
1911c John born Mayo Ireland 67 Carlisle Street Blackburn
1921c John born Mayo Ireland

[suzi600]

Thanks again for your replies so , Ann Gorton was Janes sister and their Father was Moses Brannen but Mary Jane was the Grand daughter of Moses . I have her as May jane Hietold in an earlier census