Land place names in Coatbridge / Old Monkland

[samalexander]

I've come across a few place names in Coatbridge in my research such as Fells Land, Dundyvan and Tudhopes Land, Dundyvan Road.

Where were these places? and were they tenements named landowners?

[Forfarian]

A land in this context is usually a building or sometimes group of buildings in multiple occupation, and they are often known by the name of the owner or of a prominent resident.

Unfortunately they are seldom named on maps or plans, so it's not always easy to find out where a particular land was.

You might find this map https://maps.nls.uk/view/74955769 of interest.

[MonicaL]

Not sure it shows on the 1860 map though there is a general area referred to as Dundyvan (cottage and lodge with some land around these).

This map here does show Dundyvan Road. Not clear what year it refers to. Specific buildings or street numbers not given. Find the word Coatbridge on the map in bold and look slightly south from there https://maps.nls.uk/geo/find/#zoom=14.8&lat=55.85126&lon=-4.02531&layers=102&b=1&z=0&point=55.861400,55.861400

Not sure what period you are looking at. There is mention in the 1881 census of Tudhopes Land, Dundyvan Road (a James miller born c. 1853 living there). Fell's Land also shows on the 1881 census.

Monica

[still_looking]

Dundyvan as a placename is mentioned in 1680
https://catalogue.nrscotland.gov.uk/nrsonlinecatalogue/details.aspx?reference=GD162%2f10%2f16&st=1&tc=y&tl=n&tn=n&tp=n&k=dundyvan&ko=p&r=&ro=s&df=&dt=&di=y

There's a three part history of the Iron Industry in the Monklands spread across three issues of this journal in 1983-1984 (6.1, 6.2, 7.1). It includes mention of both Dundyvan and the Tudhope family. Whether those Tudhopes owned the lands in question or not is not specified.
https://bacs.past-view.com/archive/scottish-industrial-history?

The book the Bairds of Gartsherrie (available as a pdf online) mentions on page 77 that the works at Dundyvan were relatively short lived.

Various Dundyvan references in the OS name books, Lanarkshire volume 15 might be particularly relevant if your ancestors were connected with the works
https://scotlandsplaces.gov.uk/search/results?st=Dundyvan

S_L

[hanes teulu]

A couple of newspaper references to "Tudhope's Land, West End, Langloan"

[hanes teulu]

Airdrie and Coatbridge Advertiser, 7 Jan 1902
"John Lavery, Tudhope's Land, off Manse Street"

[MonicaL]

With hanes teulu's additional details, you can Manse Street immediately under 'Coatbridge' on the map I linked above. It is very close to Dundyvan.

Monica

[Forfarian]

I found my CD-ROM transcription of the 1881 census and 'walked' round Enumeration District 4.

Tudhopes Land is listed in Dundyvan Road between Hoggs Land and Neishes Land. Hoggs Land is also listed in Buchanan Street.

So I'd imagine that Hoggs Land was on the corner of Dundyvan Road and Buchanan Street, and that Tudhopes Land was next door to it, on Dundyvan Road. See https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=18.9&lat=55.85936&lon=-4.03699&layers=168&b=1

However this doesn't agree with the newspaper report found by hanes teulu that suggests that it was off Manse Road.

It has to be somewhere in the block surrounded by Manse Road, Bank Street, Dundyvan Road and Buchanan Street. Comparing this map with the older one I posted earlier suggests that it may have been built after the older map was surveyed in 1860; there are several blocks shown on the later map that were not these in 1860.

[hanes teulu]

Glasgow Property Circle, 2 May 1882
"That plot of ground between Dundyvan Road and Hutchison Street with two tenements thereon, known as Fell's Land; ..."

The map at reply #7 shows Hutchison Road.