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Re: Birth of Ivy CALDWELL abt 1891
« Reply #27 on: Tuesday 20 February 24 09:52 GMT (UK) »
There are a few instances where Ivy Caldwell appears as a guest of other people  :-\

The Champaign Daily News
Champaign, Illinois
Wed, 2 Aug 1911
Page 8

https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-champaign-daily-news/141683011/
https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-champaign-daily-news/141683030/

The Champaign Daily News
Champaign, Illinois •
Fri, 28 Jul 1911
Page 8

https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-champaign-daily-news/141683041/

The Champaign County News
Champaign, Illinois •
Sat, 28 Jun 1913
Page 6

https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-champaign-county-news/141683052/

The Champaign County News
Champaign, Illinois •
Sat, 20 Jul 1912
Page 6

https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-champaign-county-news/141683062/

The Champaign Daily News
Champaign, Illinois •
Thu, 25 Jul 1912
Page 8

https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-champaign-daily-news/141683082/

The Champaign County News
Champaign, Illinois •
Sat, 27 Jul 1912
Page 6

The Champaign County News
Champaign, Illinois •
Sat, 27 Jul 1912
Page 6


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Re: Birth of Ivy CALDWELL abt 1891
« Reply #28 on: Tuesday 20 February 24 17:06 GMT (UK) »
Sandra you're on fire with this!

It's intriguing that Ivy's family could send her to this private school, although she did have a scholarship I imagine there were still some expenses?

Wonder if there's an archive of admissions records somewhere.

And I see from another thread that you've kindly offered to look up newspaper articles so if you find time, please could you look for her marriages, children's birth/marriage announcements?  I'll send you a DM.


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Re: Birth of Ivy CALDWELL abt 1891
« Reply #29 on: Tuesday 20 February 24 17:10 GMT (UK) »

Was hoping this would turn up a little more information but sadly not  :-\

Wouldn't we like to know where she might have visited ???  :-\ :-\ :) :)

UK and Ireland, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960 arriving 21 st June 1934 Plymouth England on the Lafayette.

Raymond P Plunkett aged 38 years - Investments -
Ivy I Plunkett aged 37 years - no occupation.

New York, U.S., Arriving Passenger and Crew Lists (including Castle Garden and Ellis Island), 1820-1957 - departed 23 rd August - arrived 30 August 1934. On the Deutschland.
Last address in UK -  Stayed at the Piccadilly Hotel. London.

Ivy Plunkett 37 years (makes her 1897) - naturalised by marriage 1917 ??
Raymond P Plunkett 38 years - native of US  - 21 st July 1896 - Rhinelander. Wisconsin.
Going home to 815 10 th Street. Wansaw. Wisconsin.

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Re: Birth of Ivy CALDWELL abt 1891
« Reply #30 on: Tuesday 20 February 24 17:21 GMT (UK) »

Including this because of the mention of Winifred  Seeger. Finding that I was looking at the same things over and over   ::) ::)
- Looked at Winifred earlier - 1910 census (below) says Winifred and sister Geneva were at a boarding school.  Winifred was also roughly the same age as Ivy.

Chicago Tribune
Chicago, Illinois 
Thu, 8 Jun 1911
Page 8

https://www.newspapers.com/article/chicago-tribune/141699769/

1910 census Rawles, Mills, Iowa.

Hugo W Seeger 49 Head
Anna E Seeger 43 Wife
Roy E Seeger 22 Son
Winiford V Seeger   17   Daughter. Boarding School.
Geneva P Seeger 14 Daughter. Boarding School.
Frances M Seeger 4 Daughter.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9RVP-9MN5?view=index&personArk=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AMGMG-862&action=view

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Re: Birth of Ivy CALDWELL abt 1891
« Reply #31 on: Tuesday 20 February 24 17:25 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Sandra, I was going to send you a DM but your inbox is full so it wouldn't go.

It seems Ivy moved in wealthy circles, marrying a millionaire lumberman, then Mr Plunkett working in a Bond House according to one of the censuses I looked at.  The passenger info supports that. Interesting that she becomes younger with each record! Although 1891 could be a misreading of 1897 originally perhaps?

Ivy married Robert Goodman on 25 Apr 1914 (in Chicago, Cook, Illinois) so became naturalized on marriage to a US citizen. 

Maddys52 unfortunately saved the wrong article about their divorce and was making use of the free weekend access to the newspaper archives, so cannot see it again.

It would be interesting if you could find it for me please?  I don't know the year, but she remarried in 23 Jun 1933 in Cook, Illinois to Raymond J Plunkett.

Also are there any reports of a Robert B Goodman marrying a Pernetta E Schmid (her father was from Prussia and a doctor practising in New York; mother a musician/music teacher) on 7 May 1901 in White Plains. In various censuses she is shown as born in the US (New York). In 1900 Federal census shows born July 1871, and 28 yrs old. In 1905 she was at her family's address with a 2 year old daughter, of Pernetta E Goodman.  She's with the Schmids in 1910, married. In 1920 she is with the Schmids and shown as divorced.

Just wondering as in Ivy's ex-husband's marriage record to Dorothy O Thomas 5 Jun 1942 in Iron, Michigan when he was 69, a lumberman, states he was married once, not twice. Dorothy was a secretary, 37, not previously married.

Thanks very much.

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Re: Birth of Ivy CALDWELL abt 1891
« Reply #32 on: Tuesday 20 February 24 17:28 GMT (UK) »

Including this because of the mention of Winifred  Seeger. Finding that I was looking at the same things over and over   ::) ::)
- Looked at Winifred earlier - 1910 census (below) says Winifred and sister Geneva were at a boarding school.  Winifred was also roughly the same age as Ivy.

Chicago Tribune
Chicago, Illinois 
Thu, 8 Jun 1911
Page 8

https://www.newspapers.com/article/chicago-tribune/141699769/

1910 census Rawles, Mills, Iowa.

Hugo W Seeger 49 Head
Anna E Seeger 43 Wife
Roy E Seeger 22 Son
Winiford V Seeger   17   Daughter. Boarding School.
Geneva P Seeger 14 Daughter. Boarding School.
Frances M Seeger 4 Daughter.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9RVP-9MN5?view=index&personArk=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AMGMG-862&action=view

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Wonder if I can filter the 1910 census to find girls at boarding schools? It's different to the UK where only the people at the address are recorded.  I've been trying to find the census record for the school itself but possibly too difficult to do.
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Re: Birth of Ivy CALDWELL abt 1891
« Reply #33 on: Tuesday 20 February 24 17:34 GMT (UK) »
1950 US census gives birthyear 1895 & 1940 is 1894

There is an 1895 birth in Bethnal Green but she can be found with parents up to 1911

Sorry, earlier I said this was Ivy Olive M, but in fact her birth was registered in Greenwich. She married in England in 1917 so not her either.
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Re: Birth of Ivy CALDWELL abt 1891
« Reply #34 on: Tuesday 20 February 24 17:48 GMT (UK) »

Did look through one sequence of pages (19) for Mount Carroll - found a few teachers listed at home but with occupation of teachers at public school/teachers of music etc.  Nothing for the College itself but it was a hurried quick look.

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Re: Birth of Ivy CALDWELL abt 1891
« Reply #35 on: Tuesday 20 February 24 17:52 GMT (UK) »

The son Owen - only marriage application

Salinas Morning Post
Salinas, California •
Wed, 20 May 1942
Page 10

https://www.newspapers.com/article/salinas-morning-post/141700814/

Salinas Morning Post
Salinas, California •
Sun, 7 Jun 1942
Page 14

https://www.newspapers.com/article/salinas-morning-post/141702302/

OBIT  (with photograph)

The Desert Sun
Palm Springs, California •
Sun, 31 Jul 2005
Page 30

https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-desert-sun/141704044/

FIND A GRAVE

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/94290408/owen-franklin-goodman

spouse -

Marion Ann Shivel Goodman - 1919 - 1990

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/94290405/marion_ann_goodman

Son -

Owen Franklin Goodman - 1943 - 1972

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/94290407/owen_franklin_goodman
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