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Re: Birth of Ivy CALDWELL abt 1891
« Reply #9 on: Monday 19 February 24 16:28 GMT (UK) »
The school was for boarders (but perhaps day pupils too?) so there must be a 1910 census entry for the place. She might be on that but it  won’t help with family. And where is she in the 1900 census? Perhaps her family went to Canada first before settling in the US?
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Re: Birth of Ivy CALDWELL abt 1891
« Reply #10 on: Monday 19 February 24 18:33 GMT (UK) »
Not sure this helps ...............

California Death Index

Ivy Caldwell Plunkett - Ivy Caldwell Caldwell

Birth Date   29 Mar 1891   Other Country
Death Date   14 Dec 1996 Death Place   Kern
Father's Surname   Caldwell

U.S., Social Security Death Index, 1935-2014

Ivy C. Plunkett Birth Date   29 Mar 1891
Issue year   1963 Issue State   Wisconsin
Last Residence   92263, Palm Springs, Riverside, California
Death Date   14 Dec 1996


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Re: Birth of Ivy CALDWELL abt 1891
« Reply #11 on: Monday 19 February 24 18:35 GMT (UK) »
That would make her 105yrs old when she died  - WOW

Another post here

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=880516.msg7529395#msg7529395
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Re: Birth of Ivy CALDWELL abt 1891
« Reply #12 on: Monday 19 February 24 18:46 GMT (UK) »
1950 US census gives birthyear 1895 & 1940 is 1894

There is an 1895 birth in Bethnal Green but she can be found with parents up to 1911
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Re: Birth of Ivy CALDWELL abt 1891
« Reply #13 on: Monday 19 February 24 19:08 GMT (UK) »
Yes that one is the Ivy Olive M Caldwell, registered birth in Greenwich.  MMN Pain.

Sandra, yes I found the details of her second marriage to Raymond J Plunkett.

CaroleW - Ivy was 27 in the 1920 census, 39 in the 1930 census (and age at marriage of 24). 1940 census she was 46.  Need to check the actual census dates as that could explain slight discrepancies but not these variations.

maddys52 - when you found the report of her divorce from Robert B Goodman (who was a lot older than her), was there mention of any previous marriage of his and a daughter, or just his two sons with Ivy?  I ask because there is a Robert B Goodman marrying a Pernetta E Schmid (her father was from Prussia and a doctor practising in New York; mother a musician/music teacher) on 7 May 1901 in White Plains. In various censuses she is shown as born in the US (New York). In 1900 Federal census shows born July 1871, and 28 yrs old. In 1905 she was at her family's address with a 2 year old daughter, of Pernetta E Goodman.  She's with the Schmids in 1910, married. In 1920 she is with the Schmids and shown as divorced.

Just wondering as in Ivy's ex-husband's marriage record to Dorothy O Thomas 5 Jun 1942 in Iron, Michigan when he was 69, a lumberman, states he was married once, not twice. Dorothy was a secretary, 37, not previously married.



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Re: Birth of Ivy CALDWELL abt 1891
« Reply #14 on: Monday 19 February 24 19:12 GMT (UK) »
That would make her 105yrs old when she died  - WOW


Surely that would have been in the local papers?
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Re: Birth of Ivy CALDWELL abt 1891
« Reply #15 on: Monday 19 February 24 19:17 GMT (UK) »
No - the 1895 birth is just Ivy Caldwell - no other christian names www.freebmd.org.uk

A tree on Ancestry has her birthdate as 29.3.1891 London??  No supporting birth reg on freebmd
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Re: Birth of Ivy CALDWELL abt 1891
« Reply #16 on: Monday 19 February 24 19:19 GMT (UK) »
Not sure if this has significance - ?? Wrong surname for wife ??


There was a William Caldwell born 1850  Govan, Renfrewshire, Scotland  died Apr-June 1892  Salford, Lancashire. Married to Jane Cowie - June 1850 - St John District, Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland.  Children listed but they don't go as far as Ivy ??

died 30 December 1913 - 6 Suffolk Street Glasgow Scotland

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https://www.ancestry.co.uk/family-tree/person/tree/80809469/person/48522636819/facts

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Added marriage -
Name   Jane Cowie
Marriage Date   30 Aug 1872
Marriage Place   Tradeston, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Spouse   William Caldwell
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Re: Birth of Ivy CALDWELL abt 1891
« Reply #17 on: Monday 19 February 24 19:22 GMT (UK) »
???

1900 census St Marys Orphanage (From Page 11 to 45 Inclusive) Court Street Dover Ward 4, Strafford, New Hampshire.

Margaret Calwell (Caldwell) born May 1885 - inmate.

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Births Registered  Jun 1885 
Caldwell    Margaret        Salford    8d   157

1891 Salford Lancashire  (date of this census was 5 th April 1891)

William Caldwell   40 Janet Caldwell   40
Jane Caldwell   18
William Caldwell   14 George Caldwell   12
David Caldwell   8 Margaret Caldwell   6
Frederick Caldwell   4 Sarah Caldwell   1

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