Sullivan Family: Roman Catholic Parish Records for Limehouse

[MattB]

Can anyone help please on where best to look for Roman Catholic baptisms in Limehouse?

I am specifically looking for a John Sullivan, son of Peter and Catherine Sullivan nee Carey, around 1856.

John married Mary O'Brien (daughter of James O'Brien, a retired policeman) in the Church of Our Lady and St Frederick in 1896, although their son, John Michael, had been born in September 1894 and they had stated they were married on his birth certificate.

I'm trying to find John's baptism (c 1856), and likely death between 1901 and 1919. And Mary Ann's likely death at the end of 1897.

It is possible that John Michael was placed into care at some point, so also seeking likely organisations that would have admitted Catholic children?

Grateful for any help.

Thanks

Matt

[CaroleW]

Where did you get his mothers name & maiden name from?

Do you have the 1861 or 1871 census for the family?  I can see 1861 & 1871 entries but mother is Mary

Where & when were Peter & Catherine married?

[MattB]

Thanks for your reply. Family memory was that John Sullivan married Mary Ann O’Brien. This has been confirmed by John Michael’s birth certificate (cross matching with date of birth in 1939 Register), and the marriage of his parents (arrived last week).

Peter Sullivan married Catherine Carew/Carey in Schull, Cork in 1842.

I have their son John in the 1871, 1881, and 1891 censuses, and tentatively in the 1901.

1861 I think the family had gone back to Ireland on a visit.

[CaroleW]

Found a  Peter & Catherine Sullivan in Limehouse 1851 - both b Cork & eldest son Daniel aged 7 also b Cork

[heywood]

Have you tried Find my Past for Catholic records?

[BumbleB]

I may be entirely wrong about this    My understanding is that RC churches did/do not have to submit their parish records in the same way that C of E churches did/do, and that therefore it is more than possible that the church has retained all their own registers.

I wish I could remember who I was researching when I found this information 

ADDED:   I appear to be very wrong - FindMyPast have a lot of records 

[CaroleW]

I can see an 1871 entry for a widowed Catherine Sullivan b Glamorgan.  Son John 16 & daughter Margaret 11 both b Limehouse

Presumably his marriage cert shows father as Peter - what was Peters occupation?

As there is no birth cert for John & no 1861 entry - how have you determined his mother was Catherine nee Carey?

There is no requirement on a birth cert to say whether or not the parents were married.  Do you mean Mary Ann is shown as Sullivan nee O'Brien?

[CaroleW]

1901 entry - note John's birthyear - not 1854

John Sullivan 38 (1863) widower b Shadwell - stevedore/dock labourer
John 6 son b Limehouse
Piece 323/66/40

No details given by you re Mary Ann's age.

Death Dec qtr 1897 Stepney - Mary Ann Sullivan aged 42.  That would make her about 8yrs older than John

[heywood]

1871 546 /109/7

Peter and Catherine Sullivan with several children b Scull plus ‘Jno’ 18 yrs.
There is a Daniel, 25 yrs so may be the one found in 1851.
There are Sullivans and Careys living next door.