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Re: Deciphering informant signature
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 21 February 24 19:09 GMT (UK) »
I would consider contacting Scotlands People to ask for a clearer image or help in determining the name. So hard to make out on the image.

See www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/technical-help/reporting-issues

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Re: Deciphering informant signature
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 21 February 24 19:10 GMT (UK) »
I would consider contacting Scotlands People to ask for a clearer image or help in determining the name. So hard to make out on the image.

See www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/technical-help/reporting-issues

Monica

Will do, thanks for your help

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Re: Deciphering informant signature
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 21 February 24 19:12 GMT (UK) »
What was Selina's age when she married in 1918? Her mother's name from the marriage reg?

Have you researched her family? Some clues maybe from her family first names.

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Re: Deciphering informant signature
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 21 February 24 19:34 GMT (UK) »
What was Selina's age when she married in 1918? Her mother's name from the marriage reg?

Have you researched her family? Some clues maybe from her family first names.

Monica

Her mother's name was Jane Cowan, father was Henry Smith. There were no siblings on any of the census I found her, she appears to just be living with her mother until she got married in 1918 at the age of 32


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Re: Deciphering informant signature
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 21 February 24 20:11 GMT (UK) »
Have  you looked at their 1921 census entry?

From the general index, there shows a Geoge Allan (36) and a Selena Allan (35) in Falkirk.

I did see a Selina Allan in Lambert, aged 3, which made me wonder if it was connected. Was George previoulsy married?

Also showing with the same reference was a David Allan (11), Thomas Allan (10) and Andrew Allan (5). Ref 485/A 6/ 28 of the Larbert 1921 census.

Added: The four children in Larbert are showing on SP with mother's maiden name of Stansbury so not connected with Selina Smith.

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Re: Deciphering informant signature
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 21 February 24 20:40 GMT (UK) »
Id had a look at the 1921 census of them living in Falkirk, no children listed, it's just the two of them living with Selina's mother, Jane. At least that narrows down the years slightly

I'd came across the age 3 Selina as well and your right, the children's mother is listed as Ada, not a relation as far as i can tell though alot of the family is from Larbert

Both their marriage cert and their death certs list no other marriages for either Selina or George

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Re: Deciphering informant signature
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 21 February 24 22:16 GMT (UK) »
Just a wee hint, when you do get the better scan and if you still can't read when you put it on here could you attach it at normal copy size as it makes it much more difficult to read when it is 'blown up'.

Most of us can download and look at an image at normal size  increasing the size if we need to. 

Sounds contradictory but it is. 


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Re: Deciphering informant signature
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 21 February 24 23:06 GMT (UK) »
I might just be putting puzzle pieces together that don't fit.... but hear me out anyway!  :)

Like Cas posted, the daughter's name looks to me as some form of Louise.

You mentioned that Selina was born in Kent, to mmn Cowan.
Could this be her birth:
SMITH, SELINA  MARGARET JANE     COWEN     
GRO Reference: 1886  D Quarter in CANTERBURY  Volume 02A  Page 793

There is an electoral record for George Allan and Selina J S Allan at 11 Montagu Terrace in 1925.
Could George have given the names and mixed up her middle initials with the daughter, as there is electoral records for:
Louise J S Allan and Selina M J Allan living at Junction Street, Great (Leith), in the 1936/7.
They appear at other places as well.

If the above is right, then George would have died (according to the newspaper, clip attached) in 1932, and Selina's mother, Jane, must have remarried to a Hodgson.

There is this death at SP: 
HODGSON    JANE  age 77 mmn Cowan, 1926, 685 / 1 / 11  St Bernard

And a possible for the Louise, if she didn't marry:
ALLAN  Louise Jane S  age 73      1988   473 / 386  Stirling
(Could Louise have been a daughter born to Selina before she married? Or after the 1921 census?  I can't find a birth for her under Smith or Allan in England or Scotland)



This clipping has all the right addresses and names, but the wrong year for George's death?  Is this just an almost "duplicate family"?  Clip is from The Falkirk Herald and Scottish Midlands Journal dated 11 February 1933

Edit: looking at the reference number for the 1921 census for Falkirk, I note that Jane Hodgson, George Allan, and Selina Allan are all on that page, but no Louise or variation.



   

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Re: Deciphering informant signature
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 21 February 24 23:55 GMT (UK) »
Well, the newspaper site has jst gone down, but I can make out the preview text for the funeral of George Allan of Great Junction who died in Feb 1932 was indeed married to Selena SMITH.

Hopefully it will come back up, and it will have mention of a daughter.

I wonder if no children came to them, so they adopted?