Llaethdy Pontyberem/Mary Ann Evans

[Dafydd Hywel]

I think it says 'Homing'

[roycymru]

Hi Hywel

Do you have the details from the marriage of Mary Ann Evans to Gwilym John Evans in 1907. I would be interesting to know what her address at marriage is and whether any details are entered for her father.

Regards

Roy

[Mabel Bagshawe]

Any suggestions for what the crossed out word is in the attached?

I wondered if it was "nursing" - a slightly odd way of saying nurse child, i.e. a child being boarded out/fostered, often of an unmarried mother away working elsewhere

[roycymru]

Any suggestions for what the crossed out word is in the attached?

I wondered if it was "nursing" - a slightly odd way of saying nurse child, i.e. a child being boarded out/fostered, often of an unmarried mother away working elsewhere

I agree, that looks to be correct and would make sense. Thanks

[roycymru]

Possible marriage for John Thomas and Mary Evans?

Q1 1860   Carmarthen    Vol 11a p749   
Evans    David          
Evans    Mary        
Lewis    Elizabeth        
Thomas    John   

The marriage is actually in 1861, in Ancestry parish records on 05 Mar 1861, Llannon. John Thomas, full age, widower, labourer of Row, Llannon to Mary Evans, full age, widow of Row, Llannon. Fathers John Thomas and John Evans respectively bot deceased, no profession given

[roycymru]

I am not sure if the proposed first Marriage of Mary Evans to George Evans is correct? There is a marriage in 17 Feb 1846 in Llanddarog of George Evans, full age, bachelor, collier of Mount Pleasant to Mary Evans, full age, Spinster of Llwynfiod(?). Fathers Thomas Evans, Schoolmaster and John Evans Shoemaker respectively. Mary Evans father as a Shoemaker rather than a labourer//Farmee is unexpected. The 1851 census entry for this pairing also has Mary’s birthplace as Llanarthney while it is Llanddarog in all other censuses. I would welcome thoughts on this

[Mabel Bagshawe]

Possible marriage for John Thomas and Mary Evans?

Q1 1860   Carmarthen    Vol 11a p749   
Evans    David          
Evans    Mary        
Lewis    Elizabeth        
Thomas    John   

The marriage is actually in 1861, in Ancestry parish records on 05 Mar 1861, Llannon. John Thomas, full age, widower, labourer of Row, Llannon to Mary Evans, full age, widow of Row, Llannon. Fathers John Thomas and John Evans respectively bot deceased, no profession given

That looks right - not sure why I didn't spot it when I was searching before

I am not sure if the proposed first Marriage of Mary Evans to George Evans is correct? There is a marriage in 17 Feb 1846 in Llanddarog of George Evans, full age, bachelor, collier of Mount Pleasant to Mary Evans, full age, Spinster of Llwynfiod(?). Fathers Thomas Evans, Schoolmaster and John Evans Shoemaker respectively. Mary Evans father as a Shoemaker rather than a labourer//Farmee is unexpected. The 1851 census entry for this pairing also has Mary’s birthplace as Llanarthney while it is Llanddarog in all other censuses. I would welcome thoughts on this

That is interesting. I was working backwards from Joseph Evans, Mary's son on 1861, b c1847 in Llannon. The only one I could find was with the George and Mary pairing (and her having a son called George b 1853 made this potential father look appealing).

Following George jnr forward, he marries in 1872. His address Gwendraeth Row. States his father is George

[roycymru]

Possible marriage for John Thomas and Mary Evans?

Q1 1860   Carmarthen    Vol 11a p749   
Evans    David          
Evans    Mary        
Lewis    Elizabeth        
Thomas    John   

The marriage is actually in 1861, in Ancestry parish records on 05 Mar 1861, Llannon. John Thomas, full age, widower, labourer of Row, Llannon to Mary Evans, full age, widow of Row, Llannon. Fathers John Thomas and John Evans respectively bot deceased, no profession given

That looks right - not sure why I didn't spot it when I was searching before

I am not sure if the proposed first Marriage of Mary Evans to George Evans is correct? There is a marriage in 17 Feb 1846 in Llanddarog of George Evans, full age, bachelor, collier of Mount Pleasant to Mary Evans, full age, Spinster of Llwynfiod(?). Fathers Thomas Evans, Schoolmaster and John Evans Shoemaker respectively. Mary Evans father as a Shoemaker rather than a labourer//Farmee is unexpected. The 1851 census entry for this pairing also has Mary’s birthplace as Llanarthney while it is Llanddarog in all other censuses. I would welcome thoughts on this

That is interesting. I was working backwards from Joseph Evans, Mary's son on 1861, b c1847 in Llannon. The only one I could find was with the George and Mary pairing (and her having a son called George b 1853 made this potential father look appealing).

Following George jnr forward, he marries in 1872. His address Gwendraeth Row. States his father is George

Thanks for the feedback. I don’t think the marriage can be discounted entirely. I can’t find a GRO entry for son Joseph but this does seem to be the entry for son George

EVANS, GEORGE       mmn EVANS 
GRO Reference: 1853  M Quarter in LLANELLY  Volume 11A  Page 453

There is another possible marriage of a George Evans to a Mary Evans in “Carmarthen” in 1848. Jun Qtr, Carmarthen 26 841, but because there are multiple entries with the same reference number this George could equally have married an Anne Daniel, Maria Howells or an Elizabeth Philipps.

[roycymru]

Finding Mary (1820), sister Jane (1823) and potential brother Thomas (1829) in 1841 with a father John could help resolve things but I have not found anything obvious but maybe others can? Finding who was at Llwynfiod(?) in 1841 might also help, but not an easy task.

The nearest I have come up with is attached. In Llanddarog in 1841, Father is John a shoemaker and has daughters Mary and Jane (though their ages are off) and no mention of a son Thomas