trying to find the right ancestor

[bobpc30]

looking for an ancestor and trying to work out who is the right one.  i have narrowed it down to two.  how does everyone feel about using the children's names to decide on the right person.  I have a GGG grand mother and i am trying to work it out to get the right one and her parents and siblings.

[Annie65115]

If you can see a clear family naming pattern, I think it can help to sway towards one person rather than another, but I wouldn't want to rely totally on that.

How about posting the info that you have and see if anyone can help?

[bobpc30]

Elizabeth Carrick nee Graham is my three times great grandmother.  She was born in Blencogo in 1837.  I know this is classed as Bromfield, Wigton.  The only information I have is what I can get from Ancestry.  I have managed to narrow it down to two births. 

[Annie65115]

How sure are you of the 1837 birth date and what's your source for this? I ask because there were 2 Elizabeth Graham births registered in the Wigton district in 1838, and we all know that our ancestors could be vague with their ages!

[shanreagh]

May be better to review your work so far. 

If you start with yourself and work back in a step by step manner you will find evidence I am sure that will sway you one way or the other.  I cannot believe that if you have gone step by step back that you find yourself with two contenders rather finding that someone's child is   say your gggggrandmother or father 

Naming patterns is one way.  Others may be patterns of worship, from Church records etc.  if you can go to other sources than Ance$try you might find some info you don't have already.   

[Ladyhawk]

Elizabeth Carrick nee Graham is my three times great grandmother.  She was born in Blencogo in 1837.  I know this is classed as Bromfield, Wigton. 

The only information I have is what I can get from Ancestry.  I have managed to narrow it down to two births.

Is this your Elizabeth on 1871 and 1881 census?

Dean Street, Linthorpe, Stockton, Yorkshire,
Edward   Carrick   Head    1839   Blacksmith   Mugton, Cumberland
Elizabeth   Carrick   Wife   1837   Mugton, Cumberland
Hannah G   Carrick   Daughter   1859    Carlisle, Cumberland
Edward   Carrick   Son   1860    Wigtown, Cumberland
Charles Carrick Son 1860 Wigton, Cumberland >recorded as Charles but should name be Charlotte
Thomas   Carrick   Son 1865 Wigton, Cumberland
Mary J   Carrick   Daughter   1869   Wigton, Cumberland
William   Carrick   Son   1871    Middlesbro, Yorkshire

Is this daughter Hannah’s birth entry, can’t see a birth registered with surname Carrick for Hannah G

GRAHAM, HANNAH       - 
GRO Reference: 1861  J Quarter in WIGTON  Volume 10B  Page 462

6, Reeds Lane, Wigton, Cumberland
Edward   Carrick   Head   Married   1838   Blacksmith & whitesmith   Wigton, Cumberland
Elizabeth   Carrick   Wife   Married   1836   Baker   Blencogo, Cumberland
Mary J   Carrick   Daughter   1869   Wigtown , Cumberland
John Thomas   Carrick   Son   1873   Dalston, Cumberland
Joseph   Carrick   Son   1874   Dalston, Cumberland
Mary Eliz   Carrick   Daughter   1877   Dalston, Cumberland
Hannah Graham Visitor Single 1847   Housekeeper (d s) Wigton, Cumberland

Did they marry have not found a marriage entry 
Do you know if or where they married? A marriage certificate hopefully would confirm her fathers name

This looks to be Edward Carrick on 1861 census married to Mary

Station Hill, Wigton, Cumberland
Edward   Carrick   Head   Married 1838   Blacksmith   Wigton, Cumberland
Mary   Carrick   Wife   Married   1838   Blacksmith wife   Wigton, Cumberland
Edward   Carrick   Son   1860   Wigton, Cumberland
Charlotte   Carrick   Daughter   1860   Wigton

GRO indexes shows mmn Pearson for Edward & Charlotte
added - Carrick/Pearson marriage entry Mar 1859 Wigton, 1862 death Mary Carrick age 24

[Neale1961]

Your Elizabeth Graham born 1837 Wigton is with her parents George and Hannah GRAHAM in the 1841 and 1851 census. The youngest children from the family who appear in the 1851 census have their births registered with mother’s maiden name as WOOD.

Have you found a marriage for George Graham to Hannah Wood?

I suspect they may not have been married, as a few of the children's births (not all) are registered without a mother's name showing on the index. Maybe it depended on who was registering the birth, as to how the mother was recorded.

Elizabeth Carrick’s younger sister, Hannah Graham, is visiting her in the 1881 census.

[Neale1961]

Looking at the tree information that you posted above, i think you are missing some children for George and Hannah Graham  - between William (1830) and Elizabeth (1838), there were at least 2 other daughters. There was a Hannah who was born 1835 who died in 1838. There was a Margaret baptised in 1832 who must have died as a child too.

[Biggles50]

Time for a DNA test.

I’d look to expand her tree sideways with siblings and their descendant's.

I would also look for each Census record for her and look at a few pages either side of her entry to see if there are any family nearby.

Look for her Marriage which was probably before the Government Registration started.