Twin BARNES brothers 1920 Camberwell. Who was their father?

[elliot]

Older daughter = Joan Barnes born 1917 (age 4) in Cork, Cork, Ireland. John and William born in Dulwich, Surrey and mother Rose (Artist Painter) born in 1891 (age 30) London/Kent (I wonder if it is Cowden, Kent?) but no husband shown.

Interesting that Head is left blank yet Rose is shown as wife/married and the parents of all three children are shown as both alive. Joan is shown as English.

Perhaps Rosa never got around to marrying?
Or married in Ireland.

[elliot]

1939 she's a widow living in Broadstairs  - date of birth is one year out. Twins are with her

Ah, I will view that in 1939 if she is with the twins.

[elliot]

Her paintings and exhibits are mentioned quite a lot in newspapers. Her first exhibit was in 1934.

See The East Kent Times and Mail (06 October 1937) for a nice overview of her work and travels.

Ashtone,
I see that she has a very fine portrait at the National Portrait Gallery.
Frederic Leighton, Baron Leighton
by Rosa Carter
watercolour on ivory, 1896
NPG 2016

As a very skilled painter might be the reason for her being drawn to St Ives in Cornwall.

[manukarik]

Sugar! I thought I'd found a possible marriage that you could follow up:

Rosina M Carter marrying Frederick C Barnes in Southampton, Hampshire  Qtr 4 1914 (Vol 2C Page No 115).

Full names Rosina Maud Carter and Frederick Charles Barnes but they are both in Southampton in 1921. Will have another look.

[manukarik]

Older daughter = Joan Barnes born 1917 (age 4) in Cork, Cork, Ireland. John and William born in Dulwich, Surrey and mother Rose (Artist Painter) born in 1891 (age 30) London/Kent (I wonder if it is Cowden, Kent?) but no husband shown.

Interesting that Head is left blank yet Rose is shown as wife/married and the parents of all three children are shown as both alive. Joan is shown as English.

Perhaps Rosa never got around to marrying?
Or married in Ireland.

Not found a marriage in Ireland yet. Perhaps a Bohemian lifestyle but strange that she is recorded as married.

[Mabel Bagshawe]

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Her paintings and exhibits are mentioned quite a lot in newspapers. Her first exhibit was in 1934.

See The East Kent Times and Mail (06 October 1937) for a nice overview of her work and travels.

Ashtone,
I see that she has a very fine portrait at the National Portrait Gallery.
Frederic Leighton, Baron Leighton
by Rosa Carter
watercolour on ivory, 1896
NPG 2016

As a very skilled painter might be the reason for her being drawn to St Ives in Cornwall.

1896?  Probably a different Rosa, given she was b in 1891

Googling suggests she was known professionally as Garlick Barnes. No mention of a husband, but of four children.

Times Obit of John says he was born in London where the family had a business WH Barnes making pianos

[Mabel Bagshawe]

WH Barnes was bought by Great Universal Stores in 1955. They reportedly then had 9 piano and radio shops in London, and an interest in the Steel Scaffolding Company!

[manukarik]

Mabel Bagshawe thanks for the heads up about Rosa's professional name which led me to this:

https://www.davidlay.co.uk/news/the-interesting-life-of-garlick-barnes/

which refers to her filmmaker sons, William and John and that she also played a mother in one of their more famous short films ‘The Fatal Shot’, a short thriller about three young bandits and their kidnapping of a young girl. The film is silent and made in 1931 so when they were very young!

https://player.bfi.org.uk/free/film/watch-fatal-shot-1931-online

[CaroleW]

Twins were b 1920 & film made 1931.  Would 10/11yr old boys be capable of making a film?  It says the boys were in their "early teens" when it was made?