"Missing" Baptist births at Wivelsfield

[stevemiller]

I'm sure I'm doing something wrong, but I can't see what! Please can anyone help?

FamilySearch batch C093041 covers the Baptist Chapel at Wivelsfield including three chrildren of William & Mary Knight - John 1771, Abraham 1773 and Hannah 1775

Here is the entry for John Knight https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JQ14-D52

I've gone through the images for this register on Ancestry and Findmypast (twice) but I cannot see these entries (although there are quite a few Knights)

The stamped page number for the entries starts at page 5.

Do the two companies both have missing pages? (presumably they got the images from the LDS/FamilySearch)

Or are the missing Knights indexed wrongly and are at another Sussex chapel?

many thanks in advance

[KGarrad]

Please bear in mind that baptists only baptised adults.

[mckha489]

The indexed entry on Ancestry gives FS film number 0825422
Looking at that in the FS catalogue, shows a locked film - only viewable at a Fam Search library.

Are you looking at images of C of E baptisms perhaps?

[amondg]

Ancestry has a transcription of the birth register for the Baptist Chapel at Wivelsfield Sussex.

John 14 July 1771
Abraham  4 March 1773  (marries Mary Constable 1793)
Hannah  11 February 1775  (Poss. Marries Thomas Bean 1796)
Semeon  10 January 1778   ( research of others he went to Michigan USA)
Mary  4 March 1780
Lucy 6 March 1782
Sarah  17 May 1784
William  24 February 1787
Dinah  18 December 1789
Jesse  8 May 1792   

Jesse is the only entry with an image and that book begins 1790.

[stevemiller]

Many thanks for the comments

I have not been looking at baptisms whether adult, Baptist or CofE.

This is the Register of Births I have mentioned (on Ancestry; Findmypast have the same).
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/2972/images/40612_B0150269-00005?ssrc=&backlabel=Return

FS film number 0825422 covers 9 chapels from the RG4 series, including this Wivelsfield register of births.

Amondg – do you have a link to that transcription on Ancestry? Or is it just the individual entries in “England, Select Births & Christenings, 1538-1975”?

I had a look at Sussex FHG’s data archive for the Chapel. Their transcription has the missing Knights, plus 3 Normans – 12 entries or 3 pages all “baptised” (should be “registered”) on 14 April 1790. These would fit in before the first image, page 5. Confusingly,  they appear to have nothing transcribed after page 20 of the Ancestry/FindMyPast images.

Either there a duplicate register (with more entries) or the scans on Ancestry/FindMyPast are missing pages. 

I would prefer to see the actual images but the transcriptions seem to be sound.  I don’t think it warrants a trip to Kew to see the original!

An interesting diversion.

[stevemiller]

Just in case someone follows down this path in the future.

I would think that Abraham Knight born 4 March 1773 is likely to be the one buried at Bethel Chapel, Wivelesfiled in Sep 1792, aged 19 - and unmarried.

Jesse Knight born 8 May 1792 was not the one who married Maria Lempriere; the one who did was my 4xgreat uncle Jesse, the only one (!) of 7 siblings to have a birth record (Ote Hill Chapel, Wivelsfield Jan 1790).