Help with Broadfield

[littleem1906]

Hi all

I'm looking to find information about a Sarah Broadfield (abt 1796-1860) who lived in Birmingham.

Sarah married Joseph Underwood, a guilt toy maker, in Birmingham in 1815. She only appears in the 1841 and 1851 census records. In 1841 she was living with a Samuel Worrallo & family and her occupation was listed as 'nanny'. Her son Enoch was living with her. In 1851, she appears to be living as a lodger with a Joseph Foster and family. She is listed as unmarried on that census and her occupation is 'assistant'. I'm still unsure as to whether this is my Sarah or not.

I know that Sarah died in 1860. Her death record states she was 65 and she was the wife of Joseph Underwood (guilt toy maker journeyman). Samuel Worrallo was present at her death. This is the man whose family she was living with in 1841.

Sarah never appeared in census with her husband most likely because he was always travelling. I've not found Joseph at all in any census, but I know he died a widow in Dudley Road Workhouse in 1864.

Sarah and Joseph had four children that I am aware of:
William - 1816
Hannah - 1818
Joseph Enoch - 1820 (died in 1895)
Caroline - 1821 (died in 1823)

I have plenty of information about Joseph Enoch but nothing about William and Hannah. I found a burial record for Caroline but no baptism. I'd love to find out more about what became of William and Hannah.

Sarah Broadfield could possibly be the daughter of a Thomas Broadfield and her mother's name may have been Sarah. I found a baptism in Birmingham that may fit for her (14th Sept 1797) but can find no further information about her parents.

If anyone can help to find information about Sarah's children Hannah and William, and who her parents were, I would be most grateful.

[ciderdrinker]

Good Morning
Can I add a few details that may not help straight away but may give a clue latter?
Sarah Broadfield's marriage in 1815 says she is 21 (probably adding a bit so she doesn't need her parents consent of Aston Row and Joseph is 25 also of Aston row
witnesses Thomas Jukes who signs and Mary Summerfield who like the bride and groom makes a cross.
There are two baptisms both at St Phillips
Sarah 14.9.1797 d of Thomas and Sarah
Sarah  15.1.1798  d of Richard and Ann

There is a second marriage Sarah Broadfield to Benjamin Downing 16.4.1812 both single ,signed witnesses Sarah Broadfield x and Thomas signed
Benjamin dies in the Workhouse 21.11.1835  age 38.

The other marriages at Aston around the same time are
Benjamin age21 5.9.1813 of Aston St to Martha Price 22 wit John and Sarah Atkins
Esther 1.01.1821 to James Rea wit James and Mary Teague.
They seem to be children of Richard and Ann.

But lets give you some info on both.
Thomas and Sarah- William 6.1.1795,Sarah ,Thomas James 11.12.1799,John 4.10.1805 ,Elizabeth 22.5.1807 and Mary Ann 11.9.1809.
Thomas is a boat builder who leaves a Will 1826 mentioning wife Sarah ,sons William and Thomas to go into the business and children who will receive money when 21.Unhelpfully he does not name them.
The corresponding burial 23.7.1825 age 56 years of Nelson St is at St Mary's.His Death notice in the Aris Gazette 25.7.1825  says he died Monday last and is of Islington.
Sarah also buried St Marys widow of Lee Cres 2 Dec 1840 age 71.
Their marriage is at AJB Thomas Broadfield and Sarah Smith signed and made cross.31.5.1793
wit Robert Baker and Richard Roberts


Richard and Ann -Benjamin 26.8.1793 ,Sarah 1798 ,William 13.3.1799 ,Richard 6.4.1801,Esther 2.6.1803 , William 7.1.1805,Mary 10.3.1807,Thomas 21.1.1811,Job 13.2.1813-1820 of London Prentice St,Susanna 1.2./8.1.1816 of Fordbrough st wood turner.

Richard married Ann Williams at St Martins 29.5.1791 .both made x .wit Robert Clayton and Sarah Shakespeare.
Mary Ann wife of Richard buried 21.7.1823  age 55 of London Prentice St on same page of burials as Caroline Underwood.
Richard at st Martin 1770-28.5.1834.Lichfield St.

I'd go with Richard and Ann but see what you think and I'll try and find some more.

Ciderdrinker

[softly softly]

Hannah Underwood was born 5th July 1818, baptised 30th August 1824, father Joseph Underwood occupation "Gilt Toy Maker" mother Sarah--address at baptism Suffolk Street.

Joseph Enoch Underwood born 21st November 1820 bap 30th August 1824, father and mother as above BUT abode Coleshill Street

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Hannah Underwood married George Day 19th August 1839 St Philips church, Birmingham. Her father recorded as Joseph Underwood occupation Gilt Toy Maker.

SS

[Dundee]

In 1851, she appears to be living as a lodger with a Joseph Foster and family. She is listed as unmarried on that census and her occupation is 'assistant'.

It is 'annuitant' not assistant, and she is unmarried.

Debra 

[ciderdrinker]

Hi
Thomas Broadfield and Richard are brothers ,both sons of William and Margaret Broadfield.
Thomas Kidderminster 30.10.1769 and 4 Dec St Mary's Bridgnorth
Richard 29.4.1771 Ribbesford (Bewdley)

possible siblings
James 18.1.1781 Bridgnorth St Mary ,Lucy 7.8.1782 Bridgnorth St Mary ,Benjamin 30.6.1785 Brierley Hill

The couple married at St Leonard Bridgnorth
William Broadfield and Margaret James 15.7.1767 both otp single and signed
wit Richard and Ann Nock.
Margaret widow buried St Marys 14.4.1812
Possible for William 2.5.1798 St Martin

ps 18.10.1836 William Underwood age 20 convicted of house breaking got 1 year.

Ciderdrinker

[Dundee]

Do you think that Sarah was in some sort of relationship with Samuel, despite the age differnce?

1851

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGZK-4VP

Debra 

[littleem1906]

Good Morning
Can I add a few details that may not help straight away but may give a clue latter?
Sarah Broadfield's marriage in 1815 says she is 21 (probably adding a bit so she doesn't need her parents consent of Aston Row and Joseph is 25 also of Aston row
witnesses Thomas Jukes who signs and Mary Summerfield who like the bride and groom makes a cross.
There are two baptisms both at St Phillips
Sarah 14.9.1797 d of Thomas and Sarah
Sarah  15.1.1798  d of Richard and Ann

There is a second marriage Sarah Broadfield to Benjamin Downing 16.4.1812 both single ,signed witnesses Sarah Broadfield x and Thomas signed
Benjamin dies in the Workhouse 21.11.1835  age 38.

The other marriages at Aston around the same time are
Benjamin age21 5.9.1813 of Aston St to Martha Price 22 wit John and Sarah Atkins
Esther 1.01.1821 to James Rea wit James and Mary Teague.
They seem to be children of Richard and Ann.

But lets give you some info on both.
Thomas and Sarah- William 6.1.1795,Sarah ,Thomas James 11.12.1799,John 4.10.1805 ,Elizabeth 22.5.1807 and Mary Ann 11.9.1809.
Thomas is a boat builder who leaves a Will 1826 mentioning wife Sarah ,sons William and Thomas to go into the business and children who will receive money when 21.Unhelpfully he does not name them.
The corresponding burial 23.7.1825 age 56 years of Nelson St is at St Mary's.His Death notice in the Aris Gazette 25.7.1825  says he died Monday last and is of Islington.
Sarah also buried St Marys widow of Lee Cres 2 Dec 1840 age 71.
Their marriage is at AJB Thomas Broadfield and Sarah Smith signed and made cross.31.5.1793
wit Robert Baker and Richard Roberts


Richard and Ann -Benjamin 26.8.1793 ,Sarah 1798 ,William 13.3.1799 ,Richard 6.4.1801,Esther 2.6.1803 , William 7.1.1805,Mary 10.3.1807,Thomas 21.1.1811,Job 13.2.1813-1820 of London Prentice St,Susanna 1.2./8.1.1816 of Fordbrough st wood turner.

Richard married Ann Williams at St Martins 29.5.1791 .both made x .wit Robert Clayton and Sarah Shakespeare.
Mary Ann wife of Richard buried 21.7.1823  age 55 of London Prentice St on same page of burials as Caroline Underwood.
Richard at st Martin 1770-28.5.1834.Lichfield St.

I'd go with Richard and Ann but see what you think and I'll try and find some more.

Ciderdrinker

Thanks so much for this. What makes you steer more towards Richard and Ann as being Sarah's parents?

[ciderdrinker]

Hi
The second marriage to Benjamin Downing has witnesses Thomas and Sarah Broadfield and Thomas signs his name.
Your Sarah makes x

Ciderdrinker

[littleem1906]

Do you think that Sarah was in some sort of relationship with Samuel, despite the age differnce?

1851

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGZK-4VP

Debra 

A great find. Thank you! I hadn't considered this but I suppose it could indeed be a possibility.