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Offline shume

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Re: Where were they transported to?
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 03 March 24 00:27 GMT (UK) »
https://www.hawkesbury.net.au/claimaconvict/shipDetails.php?shipId=26

This link has Ann Burgess and John Burgess per Royal Admiral 1792.
Ann Burgess tried Inverness, John Burgess tried Surrey so not sure they are related?

Findmypast also has the same information.
HUME: Fermanagh, Donegal,Sligo,Australia
PASFIELD: Essex, London
SHAW/STANLEY: Co Waterford,Ireland, Australia

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Re: Where were they transported to?
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 03 March 24 01:24 GMT (UK) »
There is also a record of an Alexander BURGES [1 "S"] aged 62, on the Stanislaus Hulk at Woolwich (ordered there on 23 April 1790) for transportation, life, for theft. He was "very infirm" and for good behaviour was recommended for mercy.

Not sure if this relates to your Alexander BURGESS?

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Re: Where were they transported to?
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 03 March 24 01:35 GMT (UK) »
Maddy, I can see the document you are referring to, but cannot see either of them on the Pitt. (still looking)
The "Pitt" arrived directly before the "Royal Admiral", so they may have come on different ships.

You are right - a note on the first page says the first 37 (on first reading I thought this was "57", but think it's "37") convicts arrived on the Pitt. Alexander and Anne BURGESS are 38 and 39.

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Re: Where were they transported to?
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 03 March 24 02:50 GMT (UK) »
There is also a record of an Alexander BURGES [1 "S"] aged 62, on the Stanislaus Hulk at Woolwich (ordered there on 23 April 1790) for transportation, life, for theft. He was "very infirm" and for good behaviour was recommended for mercy.

Not sure if this relates to your Alexander BURGESS?

23 April 1790 was the conviction date recorded for Ann Burgess, so I would think that record is for the correct Alexander.


Alexander and Ann both appear on the muster list noted by Maddy. This is from NRS-1155 “Musters and Other papers”. "These papers usually came from England on the transport. The lists of convicts generally show only name, date and place of trial, and sentence."
There does not seem to be a clear date for that specific document.
 
So it is unclear to me if he was onboard along with his daughter, or if he was removed at some late stage before the ship departed. 

Alexander Burgess is not on the list of those who died on the voyage of the "Royal Admiral 1792".
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)


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Re: Where were they transported to?
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 03 March 24 08:28 GMT (UK) »
Thank you, that's great. Especially the ages, which should help to work out how they fit in.
Never trust anything you find online (especially submitted trees and transcriptions on Ancestry, MyHeritage, FindMyPast and other commercial web sites) unless it's an image of an original document - and even then be wary because errors can and do occur.