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Where did the Kerr Family disappear to?
« on: Friday 08 March 24 20:18 GMT (UK) »
Hello - can anyone help me find out where the Kerr family went to between 1901 and c1920.

Robert John Kerr 1866 - 1939
Helena Warwick 1865-1934 (married 1888)
Children per 1901 census
Jessie Edith Mabel Kerr 1891 (she was a servant in 1911 and is the only one I can find a census record for)
Robert Charles Kerr 1893
Maud Vincent Kerr 1896 - 1944
Florence Lydia Kerr 1899 - 1977

note - these names and dates are right and verified in different ways - there is a similar family with similar childrens names that is not this family.

Father Robert John - after the 1901 record I can find nothing more for him except on sons wedding record - but then his occupation has changed from Farrier (taken from multiple records) to fireman.

Mother Helena, again nothing for her following the 1901 records.

Eldest daughter  - Jessie - she was working at the Granville Hotel Marylebone London, 1911 (note her birthplace is India.) She married in 1912 and I can find her in the 1939 register. One child Peggy.

Son - Robert Charles Kerr - I have some record o him living in Kent in 1913, But nothing in the 1911 census.

Daughter Maud Vincent  - nothing from the 1901 census to her marriage in 1924.

Daughter Florence Lydia Kerr (this is my direct relative that I am interested in) nothing from the 1901 census to the birth certificate of Johannes Coenen, her eldest son, born in Leicester. Note - her name is said to be Mary Florence Coenen formally Nowell, on the birth certificate - which I think is a mix of the father of Johannes actual wife at the time (Mary Jane Gay Nowell) and hers.

Did the family leave the country? Can you help me find them in the 1911 census? I am trying to piece how Florence got from Walthamstow in essex to Leicester and then to Manchester a few years later.

Many thanks for any help or suggestions Gail




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Re: Where did the Kerr Family disappear to?
« Reply #1 on: Friday 08 March 24 20:39 GMT (UK) »
Robert John was in the army. It would explain Jessie's birth in India and this baptism, cavalry depot would need farriers

baptism 16 April 1893 Canterbury Garrison Chapel
Robert Charles born 14 March son of Robert John & Ellen Kerr, the Cavalry Depot, Canterbury, father private 16th Lancers.
birth reg
Robert Charles Kerr june qtr 1893 Canterbury mmn Warwick

Also this baptism same place 25 Aug 1895
Maud Vincent born 1 June daughter of Robert Tom & Eleanor Kerr, father Corporal sheoming smith CDS.


Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Where did the Kerr Family disappear to?
« Reply #2 on: Friday 08 March 24 20:55 GMT (UK) »
another baptism
Lucknow 25 March 1891
Jessie Edith Mabel born 1 march daughter of Robert John & Helen Kerr, Lucknow cantonment, father private 16th Lancers

https://www.nam.ac.uk/explore/16th-queens-lancers

He was discharged 20 June 1899.
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Where did the Kerr Family disappear to?
« Reply #3 on: Friday 08 March 24 21:06 GMT (UK) »
another child
Walter Kerr march qtr 1908 Poplar vol 1c pg 548 mmn Warwick
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb


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Re: Where did the Kerr Family disappear to?
« Reply #4 on: Friday 08 March 24 21:10 GMT (UK) »
Following Osprey/ another baptism.

Florence Lydia bap. 9 July 1899 St Paul, Bow Common, Tower Hamlets.
address 125a Bow Common Lane
Father Robert John Kerr - Farrier
Mother Helena Kerr

GRO Index
Robert Charles 1893 Canterbury
Maud Vincer?(Vincent)  1895 Canterbury
Louisa Emily 1896 Canterbury - died age 2 death registered Mile End Old Town 1898*
Florence Lydia 1899 re. M.O.E.T.
Frank Walter reg. 1904 West Ham (ADDED)

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Re: Where did the Kerr Family disappear to?
« Reply #5 on: Friday 08 March 24 21:25 GMT (UK) »
There is a death of a Walter "Kear" reg. West Ham 1910 possible for child born 1908 - Poplar.


Son Frank Walter 1904 was in the RAF  1923 gave DOB as 1 September 1904 he married Elizabeth Ellen Kiteley 25 July 1937.
He died 3 March 1944 Buried 10 March 1944 at Orsett Essex.

Corrected year of death

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Re: Where did the Kerr Family disappear to?
« Reply #6 on: Friday 08 March 24 21:37 GMT (UK) »
Robert Charles Kerr 31 Insurance Agent of 36 Brooksville Avenue - Father Robert John Kerr - Fireman

married Winifred Alexandra Colbourne, same address on  25 January 1925 St Anne, Willesden, MDX  - father Robert William Colbourne - Taxi Driver.

Robert Charles died 1980 buried Bognor Regis Sussex.  Died 25 May, buried 6 June.  Section A Plot 262
His DOB given as 14 March 1894 s/b 1893.

Ref: Images on ancestry.

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Re: Where did the Kerr Family disappear to?
« Reply #7 on: Friday 08 March 24 22:14 GMT (UK) »
Using the free search on the 1921 census, Kerr family in Walthamstow
Robert John b. 1866
Eleanor b. 1865
Jessie E M b. 1891
Maude V b. 1895
Walter W b. 1908
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Where did the Kerr Family disappear to?
« Reply #8 on: Friday 08 March 24 22:33 GMT (UK) »
Thanks all - particularly for the extra siblings but anything from 1901? Very interested it the fathers military service - i had not managed to find why Jdessie was born in India thank you, but the whole family still seem to disappear fro 10 years apart from Jessie

thanks again for all your work.