Mysterious Eliza Jane Burns/Butler

[aidansrest]

Hi

Looking to confirm the parents of James Edward Tulloch, born in Sunderland on the 10th April 1916 (mother's maiden name is 'Burns', and his brother, Thomas, born in Sunderland on the 16th September 1917, (mother's maiden name given as 'Burns.')

No record of a Tulloch/Burns marriage in Sunderland (or anywhere that I can see), however, the 1921 census (I just have very limited access), appear to find the family living in Southwick.
Both James and Thomas are given the correct year of birth (no place of birth listed), and they are listed with 'parents' James W Tulloch born 1875 Sunderland, and Elisa (Eliza) Jane born 1884 (no place of birth given).

Cannot find the family in 1939, but their son, James Edward, married Ivy Simpson in Sunderland in 1940.

James W Tulloch appears to have married Eliza J Butler in Sunderland in 1915, but both the boys mother's maiden name is definitely given as 'Burns.'
James W Tulloch is easy to trace backwards - surname spelt as 'Tullock' but who was Eliza Jane Burns/Butler?

Thanks
Sue

[Kay99]

If it helps in 1939 James W Tulloch is transcribed as Jane W Tullock b 1877 on F M P with wife Eliza in Sunderland and her birth date is listed as 1 Jan 1882

Kay

[KGarrad]

It sounds as if the mother had been married before?
So a marriage would be in her previous married name.

[MaureeninNY]

On Ancestry:
Elizabetha Jane Burns
   Female
Birth Date   1 Jan 1882
Baptism Date   2 Feb 1882
Baptism Place   St. Marys, Sunderland, Durham, England
Father   
Joannis Burns
Mother   
Elizabeth Kane Burns

Maureen

[aidansrest]

Typically found James and Eliza in 1939 after I posted, although neither son is with them.

I did think that Eliza may have married previously too, but no trace, as far as I can see.

Sue

[aidansrest]

Goodness!! That looks like her!!

Thanks so much, I'll try and locate her on the census!

Sue

[KGarrad]

Marriage Sept qtr 1915
Sunderland Registration District     Vol 10a, page 1436

Tulloch, James W
Butler, Eliza J

[aidansrest]

I wonder if it was her mother that married again?

She seems to appear on the 1901 census as Eliza Butler - mother Elizabeth Ann, father James

Sue

Found her marriage to James and Eliza J Butler, but no sign of her previous marriage for her.

[Milliepede]

James W Tulloch appears to have married Eliza J Butler in Sunderland in 1915

That marriage certificate could be useful and confirm her fathers surname.