Mysterious Eliza Jane Burns/Butler

[aidansrest]

I Know!

However, I checked to see when James Butler married Elizabeth (Eliza's mother), and he did so in Sunderland in 1884, two years after his Eliza's birth.
Elizabeth married as Elizabeth Keeling - their first child, John, born in 1885, has mother's maiden name of 'Keeling.'

Sue

[Dundee]

You don't have to be married to have a baby.  If Elizabeth married as KEELING then she probably wasn't married to John BURNS.

Debra 

[Kay99]

Elizabeth Keeling in 1881 living in Sunderland with John Burns and another daughter??

John Burns    25    Head b Newcastle
Elizabeth Burns 19 Wife b Sunderland
Mary A. Burns 1 Daughter b Sunderland

[aidansrest]

I saw that too and wondered 🤔
Can't find the family again...but can't see a marriage either

Sue

[Cas (stallc)]

There is this possible, with another couple on page

Marriages Mar Q 1880   
Burn    John George        Sunderland    10a   658    
Felling    Elizabeth Ann        Sunderland    10a   658    

Tree on ancestry for the Butler children states has birth certs and MMN is Keelan. Seems a lot of errors when name is transcribed.

Added: there is also a marriage in 1882 for John George Burn, with likely family in 1881, so looks like not same person?

Cas

[Kay99]

There is this possible, with another couple on page

Marriages Mar Q 1880   
Burn    John George        Sunderland    10a   658    
Felling    Elizabeth Ann        Sunderland    10a   658    

Cas

There is this possible son's birth for the couple

 BURN, WILLIAM        FELLING     
GRO Reference: 1880  J Quarter in SUNDERLAND  Volume 10A  Page 691

and possibly the family in 1881 living in Monkwearmouth Shore
 John Burn   20
Elizabeth Burn   18
William Burn   1

[aidansrest]

Thanks everyone for all your help - I'm convinced that Eliza Jane Butler was born Elizabeth Jane Burns and has 'assumed' her stepfather's name, but still struggling to comfirm.

Thanks
Sue

[aidansrest]

Ok...so got copy marriage certificate between James William Tulloch and Eliza Jane Butler (Burns). She named her father as being James Butler (deceased - he was, dying in 1901), a glass maker. One of the witnesses was a Peter Butler, her half brother.
James Butler was her stepfather, her mother married him in 1884.
So, I'm guessing she was born as 'Burns' but has assumed her stepfather's surname, but used her original surname when registering her children's births!

So confusing!!

Sue