Birth certificate/adoption certificate issued pre 1927

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Why on earth would Elsie have traveled to America by ship every year?! What a life. She seemed to travel alone a lot but she's with Charles H Baber on one voyage, whom she later marries. No idea what happened to Ivan at the moment. I thought I was at the end yesterday but it feels like only the beginning!

In the early 20's, Elsie voyages were to join her husband, Ivan, who lived in New York. These passenger lists also name her father, with his address, back in England.  Just in case you missed it, the incoming lists to America in that era have two pages, so make sure to read her line number so you can match her up on the second page!

Ivan's naturalization papers indicate they have changed their last name to "Kosel".  Also they have a daughter named Audrey born 1918.
His obituary names a daughter, Audrey Smith.
Ivan opened a "beauty salon", and apparently became quite well known for it;  there is a newspaper photo of him cutting someone's hair.
He remarried in the 60's to a Leona.  He died in California.
I'd be more specific with names and dates, but my laptop crashed while I had all the tabs about them open, so this is from memory!

Edited to add:  https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-palm-beach-post-kosel-divorce-dismis/145523162/
At some point they must have divorced....there is one more lady he may have married besides the Leona mentioned above  (I'll have to find the article again.)

Second edit:  https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-peninsula-times-tribune-ivan-kosel-d/145523213/

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https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-brooklyn-daily-eagle-ivan-divorce-ca/145523338/

Bit of a "ladies man" might be an understatement!

From the link, it appears that daughter Audrey resided in England, so perhaps Elsie visited her once a year.

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Sigh! You lot are so much better at this than I am! I can't find that photo of Ivan at all. I'd love to see it. Where abouts do I look? Ancestry.com? It's absolutely fascinating.  Thanks for your continued support.

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Is there any way I can upload quite a few pages to a shared file and share it with you lovely lot? The divorce file is if some interest but it's 16 pages long and I can't upload here.

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Sigh! You lot are so much better at this than I am! I can't find that photo of Ivan at all. I'd love to see it. Where abouts do I look? Ancestry.com? It's absolutely fascinating.  Thanks for your continued support.

Depending on your subscription, Ancestry does have a basic version of newspapers.com, but very basic, so I don't know if you can find the articles there.  At any rate, I'll just toss a few more at you here:

1936
It is not written in such a way to be sure if it is Ivan in this photo (the 1955 link below is him for sure):
https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-washington-daily-news-headstands-iva/145542057/

1936
https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-commercial-appeal-ivan-kosel-random/145540652/

1938 divorce notice, Elsie in Surrey, England 
https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-palm-beach-post-elsie-in-surrey/145541329/

1955 photo (article linked below, couldn't clip it all together and have it readable)
https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-peninsula-times-tribune-ivan-kosel-p/145540967/   

Article with above photo mentions a Mrs. Kosel (not sure which wife!)
https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-peninsula-times-tribune-ivan-kosel-a/145541119/

[Mabel Bagshawe]

In 1932 Elsie arrives on her own - heading to 128 Harbert Road, London SW but leaves a few weeks later with her daughter Audrey. Last address 11 Haymarket

[Noteventhebirdsareupyet]

In 1932 Elsie arrives on her own - heading to 128 Harbert Road, London SW but leaves a few weeks later with her daughter Audrey. Last address 11 Haymarket

Leaves for USA again WITH Audrey?

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Really struggling to find a link between Irene and Harold and the Koselj family.  I haven't found any links between Elsie and the Forrests, despite her claiming to have been a Forrest  before a Koselj on my grandfather's birth certificate.  So frustrating!

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Some of this has already been mentioned by others here, but reposting in a reverse time line will make it easier to follow.  As well as the name Forrest, I don't think "Elsie" was an Elsie.

On the Oct 1922 passenger list, Elsie Koselj gives her father as H. Weigand, of 85 Southampton St., Camberwell.
Using an address search for the 1921 census, which can't be discussed (copyright reasons), has her father mistranscribed as "Henry WeiYand", and matches perfectly for the following 1911 census:

1911:   Henry Weigand ,is a baker, and married to Lina  (Carolina), and he has indicated the first 3 children are from his 1st marriage, and mistakenly says these children are born in Germany, as he was.   They are living at 155 Great College St Camden Town London N W, St Pancras.

Jumping back to 1901, Piece 148 Folio 41 Page 18, Henry the baker is with his first wife, Louisa, with children Louisa and May, at the same address as in 1911. 
This address is also the one on his citizenship papers at Ancestry, which gives his parents names, if you are trying to work back. Note there is a George "Walter" transcribed as living with them.  If you look at the image, I believe it says George Wetter. 
This census shows the first two born children, Louisa and May ( transcribed as Louise and Mary) as being born in Pancras. 

I believe "Elsie Louise"  is actually Louisa Marie Annie.  I had hoped her mother was nee Forrest, but no such luck!

WEIGAND, LOUISA  MARIE ANNIE     WETTER     
GRO Reference: 1899  M Quarter in PANCRAS  Volume 01B  Page 106

WEIGAND, MAY        WETTER     
GRO Reference: 1900  S Quarter in PANCRAS  Volume 01B  Page 95

Hopping forward to 1919, Jorose posted (Reply #11) about the birth of Harold Arthur Forrest Koselj.
The details from that are DOB 30 Jul 1919, born at 41 Jeffreys Road, father Ivan Koselj, a journeyman hairdresser of 215 Euston Rd., and mother E. L. Koselj of same address.

41 Jeffreys Rd was apparently a maternity hospital, according this:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/sarflondondunc/2131043168

I may have missed reading it, but is there an address for Harold's adoptive parents around that time?  Maybe they were neighbours?

Edited to add:  There is the possibility that Ivan wasn't the real father, and Elsie had an affair with a Forrest while Ivan was in New York? Ivan might not have even known about the baby?