Gilchrist watchmakers 1861 Leeds & Huddersfield from Scotland

[*Sandra*]

If he had died she may have used the word deceased or similar.
Tend to believe the 1871 census that she was still married and he had gone to America.

[Lance Matthews]

Can you please help, me find out who the parents pf Thomas Gilchrist were. He was born in Huddersfield in 1861 and was buried in Leeds in January 1863

[*Sandra*]

Can you please help, me find out who the parents pf Thomas Gilchrist were. He was born in Huddersfield in 1861 and was buried in Leeds in January 1863

GILCHRIST, THOMAS    MMN   WELLS 
GRO Reference: 1860  S Quarter in HUDDERSFIELD  Volume 09A  Page 320

[*Sandra*]

Pretty sure Rosie mentioned these on your other thread.........

FIND A GRAVE

Thomas Gilchrist - 4 January 1863

Age: 2 years, Birth Place: Huddersfield, Abode Place: Wellington Lane, Cause Of Death: Dropsy, Trade: Child, Gender: M, Relation: John GILCHRIST & Margaret GILCHRIST, Relation 1 Trade: watch maker, 9 Jan 1863 is the interment date

Leeds General Cemetery
Leeds, Metropolitan Borough of Leeds, West Yorkshire
PLOT 1000

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/226176812/thomas-gilchrist

brother Joseph Gilchrist (1850 - 1869)  in same cemetery.

FIND A GRAVE

Age: 19 years, Birth Place: Edingborough, Abode Place: George St, Cause Of Death: Consumption, Trade: Watch Maker, Gender: M, Relation: John GILCHRIST & Margaret GILCHRIST, Relation 1 Trade: Watch Maker, 18 Apr 1869 is the interment date

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/226186318/joseph-gilchrist

mother Margaret Ellen Gilchrist - FIND A GRAVE

1829 - 1911

Dewsbury Cemetery
Dewsbury, Metropolitan Borough of Kirklees, West Yorkshire.
PLOT Uncons. K 241

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/255337282/margaret-ellen-gilchrist


Sandra

[*Sandra*]

The Leeds Mercury
Leeds, West Yorkshire
Sat, 20 Nov 1869
Page 7

https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-leeds-mercury/143489959/

Sandra

[Lance Matthews]

I think all the pieces are coming together, Just need to find John senior departing England for New York, leaving his wife, whi in the 1871 census, states she is married, but no husband to be seen. John Gilchrist junior is born in New York, in 1869. Leave England 1867 or 1868. Would he have to divorce his English wife, or what would the process be.

[*Sandra*]

There was no mention of John Gilchrist senior in the 1862 court case, just his wife and son.

The early passenger lists sometimes do not have enough information to make a positive identification.
Ages may vary, occupations may not be mentioned.

There is quite an early passenger list for New York, U.S., Arriving Passenger and Crew Lists - arriving 9 th April 1861 on a ship named United Kingdom. John Gilchrist aged 33 years (born 1828) going to New York !!

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1891

https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/1849782

Sometimes people had not been divorced so he could be a bigamist !!

[Lance Matthews]

Strong possability that he could have been a bigamist. His wife Margaret, states in the 1871 census, that she was married, the children are there, but no husband. 1869 John's workshop, at Malt-Mill yard, Leeds, is up for rental. No marriage certificate in New York with the first child born there in1869.

[Lance Matthews]

Will I be able to obtain the death certificate of Thomas Gilchrist, born Huddersfield 1861 with burial in Leeds. What information would be on the certificate.