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George Pilgrim born c1830 Bermondsey according to 1861 census
« on: Monday 11 March 24 18:58 GMT (UK) »
I can't find him anywhere except the 1861 census where his birth is transcribed as 1830 B??? When you look at the actual record, it says Bermondsey.
He's living with his wife Mary Ann, transcribed as Henry! Also children, Ann, George, Henry, Charles, Alfred. They also had children Edward and Mary Sophia after this. Mary Ann is a widow in 1871 census, so George must have died between Mary Sophia's conception 1862/3.
I have George and Mary Ann's marriage in Southwark 1846. Also her parents Thomas Tackley and Mary from the marriage and her baptism in 1826 in Bermondsey.

Can anyone take me back further with George Pilgrim and Thomas and Mary Tackley please as I'm at a bit of a dead end.

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Re: George Pilgrim born c1830 Bermondsey according to 1861 census
« Reply #1 on: Monday 11 March 24 19:01 GMT (UK) »
Do you have the 1846 marriage certificate? If so, what is George's father's name and occupation?
There's an 1824 baptism in Bermondsey for a George Pilgrim. Parents: George and Sophia.

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Re: George Pilgrim born c1830 Bermondsey according to 1861 census
« Reply #2 on: Monday 11 March 24 19:37 GMT (UK) »
George's marriage certificate states that he was 22 (born c.1824) and his father was Henry Joseph Pilgrim, bricklayer.

The witnesses were James W. Pilgrim and Ann Pilgrim (x).

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Re: George Pilgrim born c1830 Bermondsey according to 1861 census
« Reply #3 on: Monday 11 March 24 19:38 GMT (UK) »
Ooh ... It was on ancestry and I've just realised that I should've gone to Specsavers 🤦🤦🤦
Her father's name was Richard ... Occupation - corn meter
His father was George Henry ... occupation - bricklayer

Sorry. Was obviously researching that part too late at night 😪
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Re: George Pilgrim born c1830 Bermondsey according to 1861 census
« Reply #4 on: Monday 11 March 24 19:39 GMT (UK) »
George's marriage certificate states that he was 22 (born c.1824) and his father was Henry Joseph Pilgrim, bricklayer.

The witnesses were James W. Pilgram and Ann Pilgrim (x).

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Thank you and apologies ... See above post 😔
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Re: George Pilgrim born c1830 Bermondsey according to 1861 census
« Reply #5 on: Monday 11 March 24 19:41 GMT (UK) »
His father was George Henry ... occupation - bricklayer

Doesn't it say Henry Joseph Pilgrim? Where are you reading George Henry?

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Re: George Pilgrim born c1830 Bermondsey according to 1861 census
« Reply #6 on: Monday 11 March 24 19:44 GMT (UK) »
1809 baptism in Bermondsey for a Henry Joseph Pilgrim (born 1801). Parents: Henry & Sophia.
1801 birth as per London, Docklands And East End Baptisms collection.

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Re: George Pilgrim born c1830 Bermondsey according to 1861 census
« Reply #7 on: Monday 11 March 24 19:46 GMT (UK) »
James W. Pilgrim married Ann Lilley in 1846 in Southwark. He gives his father as Henry Joseph Pilgrim, plasterer, so he is presumably George's older brother (James was born c.1817).

One of the witnesses to his marriage was a Sophia Pilgrim.

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Re: George Pilgrim born c1830 Bermondsey according to 1861 census
« Reply #8 on: Monday 11 March 24 19:47 GMT (UK) »
His father was George Henry ... occupation - bricklayer

Doesn't it say Henry Joseph Pilgrim? Where are you reading George Henry?

Queenie  :)

Oh blimey ... Apologies. Not with it all this evening! Just as well you're all on here tonight 🥺
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