Cleary / Roche County Wexford

[heywood]

Here is Joseph b Aughrim, 1871
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1871/03287/2204712.pdf

I can’t see a civil birth registration for Mary Roche in Rathdrum.
If you look at the baptism record, there is a civil record for William Farrell, (baptism 2438) and on another page, in the civil registers, a civil record for Peter Heatherton (baptism 2436), the entries above and below Mary's baptism.

It seems as though Mary’s civil record was omitted.

[heywood]

Well, I hope you are going to come back and let us know your thoughts on this, accleary.

This looks to be Peter Cleary.
1871- Peter ‘Clarey’ married to Isabella, living in Durham and birthplace ‘Kilmoor ’.
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https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VB87-121

His marriage record would give his father’s name and occupation. That detail might help.

[accleary]

Well, I hope you are going to come back and let us know your thoughts on this, accleary.

This looks to be Peter Cleary.
1871- Peter ‘Clarey’ married to Isabella, living in Durham and birthplace ‘Kimoor’.
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https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VB87-121

His marriage record would give his father’s name and occupation. That detail might help.

Hi there, sorry my posts are taking a long time to be moderated - I replied on the previous page yesterday (Friday) but it's still awaiting moderation...and I imagine that by the time this one is moderated the previous one will have been!

It is tricky with the variations on spelling - Cleary, Clarry, Clary, Clarey; Roche, Roach, Roache etc.

I had made the assumption around it being Kilmore in Wexford as it's a fairly established place, and also I remember many years ago my Aunt mentioning family history oriented around a bay in the South East tip of Ireland...but my understanding also is that the name Cleary is pretty common in Co.Clare, and there is a Kilmore there too.

[Wexflyer]

Well, I hope you are going to come back and let us know your thoughts on this, accleary.

As a new user, ACCLeary's posts will only appear once/if approved by moderator.

[heywood]

Thanks for coming back accleary.

I didn’t realise that posts need approval. I used to be a moderator and  it may have changed or I must have forgotten that.   

I hope we are on the right track.

[Wexflyer]

Peter Cleary, born 1821 - married Isabella Linsley in North-East England (Durham I believe). Evidence for him being from Kilmore is the 1881 E&W Census listing him (Peter Clarry  ) as being born in Kilmoor, Ireland. And I think I've seen Rilmore somewhere too! I've seen others on Ancestry listing a James Cleary, born 1790 in County Clare as his father, but I haven't found documentary evidence of that.

There is a Kilmore in Co. Cavan. A parish and also the name of the entire diocese.
That your Peter Cleary ended up in Durham, might suggest mining - did he have such an association? There were mines in the vicinity of Co. Cavan, which might make a Cavan origin more likely if so. Downside is he would have been born before start of parish register.

There is also a Kilmore Catholic/civil parish in Co. Mayo, on the ocean.

Kilmore, Co. Wexford - A parish with fishing village and an agricultural area. Unlikely candidate for move to Durham? No sign of his baptism in parish registers.
Kilmore, Co. Clare - just a townland.

[Wexflyer]

Mary Bridget Roche being born in Macroom - 1939 England and Wales register lists her birthplace as County Cork, Ireland. I'm sure I saw an explicit reference to Macroom somewhere, perhaps in the
.....As there's a baptism of a Mary Bridget Roche in Fermoy, Cork, in March 1869 with the parents being Owen Roche and Bridget Daly.

Fermoy isn't Macroom, though, is it?

Regarding Wexford (Town), the 1901 England census lists his birth place as 'Westford, Ireland', which I took to be a spelling mistake, as I haven't found a place called Westford.

Could also be Westport.

[Wexflyer]

There is a Widow Cleary listed in the 1834 (or 31?)  tythe valuation of the parish of Kilmore, Co. Cavan, townland of Kevitt.
The NAI list this under Kilmore, Co. Mayo, but I believe they are mistaken.

[Wexflyer]

There is a William Cleary listed in the 1833 tythe valuation of the parish of Kilmore, Co. Wexford.