Registration District for Llandore, Morriston, Gorseinon and/or Treboeth

[OnTheRoad]

I have been trying to find the birth record for my great grandfather John Thomas for many years and I have no idea of his mother's maiden name. I have just seen the 1921 Census on FindMyPast and it states that he was born in Treboeth and he was 60 years and 8 months old at the time - the census date was 19 June 1921. I think that implies that his birth should have been registered in the 4th quarter 1860. There are varying claims in different census for his place of birth namely Llandore, Morriston, Gorseinon and Treboeth but I thought these would all be in the Swansea registration district. On checking the GRO, there was no birth record for a John Thomas in Swansea in the 4th quarter. There were however 6 records in the first quarter 1861. Can anyone please confirm that Swansea would be the correct registration district before I invest in ordering birth certificates? Or can anyone suggest an alternate strategy to try and pin him down?

Any suggestions or assistance will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in anticipation.
Cherryl

[fiddlerslass]

List of places in Swansea registration district

https://www.ukbmd.org.uk/reg/districts/swansea.html

[KGarrad]

Usually, you have 42 days to register a birth.
That limit could take the registration into the following year.

[OnTheRoad]

List of places in Swansea registration district

https://www.ukbmd.org.uk/reg/districts/swansea.html

Thanks FiddlersLass for the prompt response. I have seen this, however it states that Llandore, Morriston and Gorseinon were moved to West Glamorgan in 1983 or 1986 but it is not clear to me whether these places were previously included in Swansea as they are not listed.

[OnTheRoad]

Usually, you have 42 days to register a birth.
That limit could take the registration into the following year.

Thanks KGarrad. Guess I need to invest in some birth records and see what pops up!

[KGarrad]

Gorseinon was (is?) a village in the parish of Llandeilo Talybont.
Morriston was (is?) in the parish of Llangyfelach.
Landore (note spelling!) also in the parish of Llangyfelach.
Treboeth is a suburb and historical village in the Mynydd-Bach ward of Swansea, Wales

[fiddlerslass]

Hi Cherryl

You may also find this useful, for future reference as it gives the parishes and registration districts and other information

https://www.swansea.gov.uk/media/587/A-gazetteer-of-localities-in-the-West-Glamorgan-area/pdf/2s11_Gazetteer_of_localities_in_the_West_Glamorgan_Area.pdf?m=1599753875287

[Deirdre784]

You also need to remember that not all births were registered at the time

[softly softly]

Hi, A possibilty, in trying to narrow down a birth place, did your John Thomas marry Elizabeth Watkins in SQ 1883 Newport Mon. If so they had a son Richard.

THOMAS, RICHARD  THEOPHILUS     mmn WATKINS 
GRO Reference: 1887  D Quarter in PONTYPRIDD  Volume 11A  Page 436

Possibly named his son in honor of his brother born 1865-1882
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In 1871 census ref   Piece   5445 Folio   108 Page number 47

John Thomas 47 Head
Margaret Thomas 46 Wife
Mary A Thomas 14 Daughter
John Thomas   10   Son
Rees T Thomas 5 Son  (looks like an abbreviated Ricd)

Births Sep 1865   
Thomas    Richard Theophilus        Merthyr T.    11a   350

Death
THOMAS, RICHARD  THEOPHELUS     aged 17 
GRO Reference: 1882  M Quarter in BEDWELLTY  Volume 11A  Page 58
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1861 census, Piece   4097 Folio   61 Page number   32 (No John Thomas jnr present)

1861 census date 7 April 1861

THOMAS, JOHN       mmn LEWIS 
GRO Reference: 1861  J Quarter in SWANSEA  Volume 11A  Page 513

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