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Offline Ann E

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on 1939 register
« on: Thursday 14 March 24 12:35 GMT (UK) »
I found this on 1939 register  would he have been in merchant Navy? & what does it mean, thanks
Lacey, IOW, Lacey, Shearstone  SOM, Higgins, Tagg, Sammons, Jackson, Reeves Cowley, Wale OXFORD. Robert Collinson

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Re: on 1939 register
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 14 March 24 13:32 GMT (UK) »
He had the PMG qualification as described here, from the Wireless college Colwyn Bay website

"RADIO OFFICERS in the BRITISH MERCHANT NAVY or at BRITISH COAST STATIONS are required to hold a certificate of competence issued by H.M. Postmaster-General. P.M.G. Certificates are issued in three grades - SPECIAL CLASS, SECOND CLASS and FIRST CLASS; the minimum training periods (for students following a standard course) being 2 1/2 terms, 3 1/2 terms and 4 1/2 terms respectively.

The SPECIAL CERTIFICATE entitles the holder to operate apparatus in small ships, such as fishing vessels
and private yachts which are not by law compulsorily fitted with radio. Because of its limited usefulness, training for the Special Certificate alone is not recommended.
The SECOND CLASS CERTIFICATE entitles the holder to serve as a junior Radio Officer in any British ship and as the Radio Officer-in-charge in some British ships.
The FIRST CLASS CERTIFICATE entitles the holder to be the Radio Officer-in-charge of the entire Radio installation and the Chief of the entire Radio staff in any British ship. "

https://sites.google.com/site/wirelesscollege/college-prospectus

I think this is the ship he served on

https://uboat.net/allies/merchants/crews/ship1295.html

I do not know what the numbers on the 1939 snip refer to.

There are crew lists for this ship, if it is the correct one, at the national archives

https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/results/r?name=Search&_cr1=BT%20381/552&_aq=171309

It may also be worth doing a search of his name here

https://www.crewlist.org.uk/people/crew
Bulman, DUR
Butterfield DUR & N. YKS,
Earnshaw DUR
Hopps DUR & N. YKS
Howe, Richardson,Thompson all DUR

William Thompson violin maker Bishop Auckland
William Thompson jun. Violin maker Leeds

Richardson in Bermondsey/East Ham, descendants of William Richardson b. 1820 Bishop Auckland

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Re: on 1939 register
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 14 March 24 14:04 GMT (UK) »
Thank you veru much, that is very kind & helpful. :)
Lacey, IOW, Lacey, Shearstone  SOM, Higgins, Tagg, Sammons, Jackson, Reeves Cowley, Wale OXFORD. Robert Collinson

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Re: on 1939 register
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 14 March 24 23:09 GMT (UK) »
I missed the number off the first image I sent would that have been his Merchant Navy number?  R71714 I cant find him in the crew lists?
Here  another ship he was on, Ungada had been a sea  4 years was a wireless operator,  engaged on ship on 9.3.24  Swansea, not discharged arrival. could read. his age 23. male. English, British. height 6'0'' weight 147. no Physical marks.
I think it might have been a tanker I cant find anything on it , only one was  built ib 1950s

I cant post image of info on Unganda ??
Lacey, IOW, Lacey, Shearstone  SOM, Higgins, Tagg, Sammons, Jackson, Reeves Cowley, Wale OXFORD. Robert Collinson


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Re: on 1939 register
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 14 March 24 23:12 GMT (UK) »
other ship
Lacey, IOW, Lacey, Shearstone  SOM, Higgins, Tagg, Sammons, Jackson, Reeves Cowley, Wale OXFORD. Robert Collinson

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Re: on 1939 register
« Reply #5 on: Friday 15 March 24 09:18 GMT (UK) »
I can't find an appropriate SS UGANDA either.

Perhaps try old newspapers.

I did a bit of googling and found that in the 1920' s the discharge numbers were getting too large, so they were reset and started with R , so it could be a discharge number.
Bulman, DUR
Butterfield DUR & N. YKS,
Earnshaw DUR
Hopps DUR & N. YKS
Howe, Richardson,Thompson all DUR

William Thompson violin maker Bishop Auckland
William Thompson jun. Violin maker Leeds

Richardson in Bermondsey/East Ham, descendants of William Richardson b. 1820 Bishop Auckland

Berger, Fritsch, Ritschel, Pechanz, Funke, Endesfelder & others from Czechia

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Re: on 1939 register
« Reply #6 on: Friday 15 March 24 10:30 GMT (UK) »
Thank you I did tryold newspapers with no luck..
Lacey, IOW, Lacey, Shearstone  SOM, Higgins, Tagg, Sammons, Jackson, Reeves Cowley, Wale OXFORD. Robert Collinson

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Re: on 1939 register
« Reply #7 on: Friday 15 March 24 11:07 GMT (UK) »
Aucock/Aukett~Kent/Sussex, Broadway~Oxfordshire, Danks~Warwickshire, Fenn~Kent/Norfolk, Goatham~Kent, Hunt~Kent, Parker~Middlesex, Perry~Kent, Sellers~Kent/Yorkshire, Sladden~Kent, Wright~Kent/Essex

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Re: on 1939 register
« Reply #8 on: Friday 15 March 24 11:14 GMT (UK) »
I did see that ship but discounted it as the OP stated the man joined in 1924.
Bulman, DUR
Butterfield DUR & N. YKS,
Earnshaw DUR
Hopps DUR & N. YKS
Howe, Richardson,Thompson all DUR

William Thompson violin maker Bishop Auckland
William Thompson jun. Violin maker Leeds

Richardson in Bermondsey/East Ham, descendants of William Richardson b. 1820 Bishop Auckland

Berger, Fritsch, Ritschel, Pechanz, Funke, Endesfelder & others from Czechia