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Offline Neale1961

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Re: Struggling
« Reply #72 on: Monday 18 March 24 21:54 GMT (UK) »
As previously explained, the  record you are looking for has NOT yet been digitized.
This information about the record should negate your search fee --
Surname – Macarthur   (be sure to adhere to this exact spelling)
Given name  - Duncan
Age 59 years
Date - 29 Mar 1883
Certificate Nbr – 453449
County – Manhattan


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Re: Struggling
« Reply #73 on: Monday 18 March 24 22:16 GMT (UK) »
Nice one Neale, I'll let you know what I find.

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Re: Struggling
« Reply #74 on: Wednesday 27 March 24 20:58 GMT (UK) »
Well, Its finally arrived, Duncan Macarthur death certificate, I've tried to attach it here but its telling me the files too big at 700kb.
Duncan did die in 1883 age 59 years and 8 months, born in ENGLAND in 1823.
Fathers name Duncan Macarthur born in SCOTLAND, mothers name looks like Sarah Browning/Benning so it looks like the Clerkenwell Middlesex birth for Duncan of 14th June 1823 is the correct one.
The quest continues now in finding his father and mother.

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Re: Struggling
« Reply #75 on: Wednesday 27 March 24 21:23 GMT (UK) »
That was a quick turn around. Thanks for the update.
I never doubted the 1823 baptism in Middlesex. What I do doubt, is that the parents were married.
I suspect they were not.
The mother Sarah Browning will be connected to the same Browning family that Edith visited, so researching them thoroughly will probably yield more results.
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Re: Struggling
« Reply #76 on: Wednesday 27 March 24 21:26 GMT (UK) »
That's great, well done :)

There are two Duncan M(a)cArthurs in England in the 1841 census who could be yours, both born in Scotland and living in London.

One is a merchant, aged 45, with wife Fanny and daughters Fanny, 9 and Charlotte, 8; the other a baker, aged 43, with wife Jane and son David Alexander, 8.

Your Duncan's parents may have died, or possibly his mother died and his father married again.

Never trust anything you find online (especially submitted trees and transcriptions on Ancestry, MyHeritage, FindMyPast and other commercial web sites) unless it's an image of an original document - and even then be wary because errors can and do occur.

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Re: Struggling
« Reply #77 on: Wednesday 27 March 24 21:32 GMT (UK) »

One is a merchant, aged 45, with wife Fanny and daughters Fanny, 9 and Charlotte, 8; .......

The merchant is most likely, in my opinion.

Added - 1841 census, shows him as a wine merchant, born Scotland.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQJ6-512
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Re: Struggling
« Reply #78 on: Wednesday 27 March 24 21:39 GMT (UK) »
1851 census shows him, Duncan Macarthur born 1792 Scotland living in Paddington London. He is a wine merchant.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGB1-TJK


He married his wife Fanny PAYNE 25 Sept 1830 in St Pancras London
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NK5M-4XS


They had 4 children: Fanny May 1832; Charlotte 1833; Charles Daniel 1835; Helen 1849
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Re: Struggling
« Reply #79 on: Wednesday 27 March 24 21:40 GMT (UK) »
The merchant is most likely, in my opinion.
I agree.

Your subsequent find seems to clinch it. There can't be all that many wine merchants called Duncan Macarthur born in Scotland and living in London.

Would his marriage to Fanny Payne say if he was a widower?
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Re: Struggling
« Reply #80 on: Wednesday 27 March 24 21:44 GMT (UK) »
There can't be all that many wine merchants called Duncan Macarthur born in Scotland and living in London.
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Agreed.

Probate index attached. He died in 1860.

He was buried 29 May 1860 at All Souls, Kensal Green. (age 68)
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)