Agnes (Nancy) Steele Look up please - struggling!!

[katiesam]

Hi all,

Wondering if you can help - I'm looking for info on my direct relation 
Info i have -
Agnes (Nancy) Steele was born in 1845 in Ireland, the daughter of William McCrory Steele. She married Robert Forsyth on 2 November 1867 in Ballymena, Antrim. They had three children in 12 years. She died on 16 January 1889 in Port Glasgow, Renfrewshire, at the age of 44.
I got her fathers name from her marriage certificate but that's as far as I got.
Can anyone point me in the right direction? I'd really appreciate it. I'm really stuck!

Katie  x

[scotmum]

FORSYTH
AGNES
34
STEELE
F
1889
574 / 2
PORT GLASGOW


STEELE
AGNES
34
STEELE
F
1889
574 / 2
PORT GLASGOW

Above index would suggest that her MMN was Steele...have you viewed the actual certificate to see what info it contains? It should have her father and mother's full names, provided those were known to the informant and the knowledge was accurate. Does the father, if named, match the name on the marriage record?

At the moment, I am not seeing any other record/s containing a 'William McCrory Steele', so all/any clues from the Scottish death certificate of Agnes/Nancy are important.

[scotmum]

In case it links in anyway, Nancy Steele gave her address as Mill Street when she married. In the 1850s, there was:

Adam Steele, grocer, baker, wine and spirit dealer, Mill Street

There was still an Adam Steele in Mill Street in the Valuation Revision books until 1867, possibly the same Adam who died:

ADAM STEELE
Date of Death   1870
SR District/Reg Area   Ballymena
Deceased Age at Death   65
Returns Year   1870

[scotmum]

Was their third child born in Scotland? I can see Mary Jane (1868) and Anne (1870), both born near Armoy in Ballycastle district:

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/6187857756536

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/eb3edf7381416

Deaths in Renfrewshire in timescale:

FORSYTH
ROBERT
0
STEELE
M
1884
574 / 32
PORT GLASGOW


FORSYTH
ANN
2
STEELE
F
1872
564 / 2 / 131
GREENOCK EAST

I wonder if the 1872 death above was the Ann/e born in Armoy area? Could the 1884 death of the Robert also have been one of their children (given they were in Port Glasgow, Renfrewshire by at least 1881)?

The 1881 census for Port Glasgow has Robert and Agnes with children Mary J, born Ireland (so ties with the Armoy area birth) as well as an Agnes and Margaret, both born in Old Monkland district, Lanarkshire.

So, even if Robert was not one of their children, there were still more than 3 children born in total.

[aghadowey]

For reference- marriage of Robert Forsythe & Nancy Steele in Ballymena Registry Office-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1867/11508/8232308.pdf

[katiesam]

FORSYTH
AGNES
34
STEELE
F
1889
574 / 2
PORT GLASGOW


STEELE
AGNES
34
STEELE
F
1889
574 / 2
PORT GLASGOW

Above index would suggest that her MMN was Steele...have you viewed the actual certificate to see what info it contains? It should have her father and mother's full names, provided those were known to the informant and the knowledge was accurate. Does the father, if named, match the name on the marriage record?

At the moment, I am not seeing any other record/s containing a 'William McCrory Steele', so all/any clues from the Scottish death certificate of Agnes/Nancy are important.

Thank you for this! Its difficult as the marriage certificate has her at 22 years old when she was married but only death record i can find - same as one you found - has her dead at 34 when she would have been 44. Either she got married at 12 and they put 22 which i doubt or her age on death cert is wrong. Very confusing! She would have been 44 in 1889.

x

[katiesam]

For reference- marriage of Robert Forsythe & Nancy Steele in Ballymena Registry Office-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1867/11508/8232308.pdf

Thank you! x

[katiesam]

Was their third child born in Scotland? I can see Mary Jane (1868) and Anne (1870), both born near Armoy in Ballycastle district:

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/6187857756536

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/eb3edf7381416

Deaths in Renfrewshire in timescale:

FORSYTH
ROBERT
0
STEELE
M
1884
574 / 32
PORT GLASGOW


FORSYTH
ANN
2
STEELE
F
1872
564 / 2 / 131
GREENOCK EAST

I wonder if the 1872 death above was the Ann/e born in Armoy area? Could the 1884 death of the Robert also have been one of their children (given they were in Port Glasgow, Renfrewshire by at least 1881)?

The 1881 census for Port Glasgow has Robert and Agnes with children Mary J, born Ireland (so ties with the Armoy area birth) as well as an Agnes and Margaret, both born in Old Monkland district, Lanarkshire.

So, even if Robert was not one of their children, there were still more than 3 children born in total.

This has been very helpful and has helped me add a couple extra children to the tree x

[katiesam]

In case it links in anyway, Nancy Steele gave her address as Mill Street when she married. In the 1850s, there was:

Adam Steele, grocer, baker, wine and spirit dealer, Mill Street

There was still an Adam Steele in Mill Street in the Valuation Revision books until 1867, possibly the same Adam who died:

ADAM STEELE
Date of Death   1870
SR District/Reg Area   Ballymena
Deceased Age at Death   65
Returns Year   1870

Thank you for this, will def keep this is mind! x