Richard Fearon JACKSON m Mary STEEL(E)?

[maddys52]

maddys52
Interesting about the ship's passage. Perhaps this is a subsequent one, as I had them emigrating:
11 May 1884, on the Aorangi, London, England to Canterbury, New Zealand as part of the Assisted Immigrant Scheme.

Yes, this is a subsequent trip back to the UK. Interestingly I can only see Richard, Mary and Ada on the return voyage in 1913 on the Orsova. Maybe Evelyn stayed a bit longer.

[maddys52]

I see on Frederick Adolph HANSEN's army record he says he married Evelyn Ann Rebecca JACKSON on 6 May (might be August?, either a "5" or an "8") 1913 in Cumberland, England. (Can't see the marriage on FreeBMD)

Modified to add:
Not sure why, I can't see the marriage on FreeBMD, but Ancestry have it indexed:
Frederick A HANSON and Evelyn A R JACKSON Wigton Sept qtr 1913 (10b/1123)

Oh, found it now ... senior moment. 

[Mabel Bagshawe]

maddys52
Interesting about the ship's passage. Perhaps this is a subsequent one, as I had them emigrating:
11 May 1884, on the Aorangi, London, England to Canterbury, New Zealand as part of the Assisted Immigrant Scheme.

Mabel
Thanks for that tip off.  I will look for those births as an aside.

I'm getting more dubious, especially if your 1884 emigration date is correct, as they post date that.

The Ulverston ones look to be the children of William Wilson Jackson and Mary Jane Steele, whose marriage is  registered in Ulverston in 1885, given one son is also William Wilson

[mckha489]

Children are named in the Will I posted earlier. I am sure Twiggy has already

Ada Mary HOLSCHIER
Evelyn Anne Rebecca HANSEN
Richard Fearon junior

Have you got Mary’s death cert?

[maddys52]

Yes, this is a subsequent trip back to the UK. Interestingly I can only see Richard, Mary and Ada on the return voyage in 1913 on the Orsova. Maybe Evelyn stayed a bit longer.

I should have checked the passenger list a little more carefully. The entries immediately previous to the JACKSON family (on the previous page) on the return voyage on the Orsova are Frederick and Evelyn HANSEN.

[maddys52]

Hmmm....not sure what to make of the Hilda Lariena vs Ada Mary.

Actually, checking the NZ BDM I see that Hilda Lavinia JACKSON died 1891 aged 9 months. Strange that I can't see Ada Mary JACKSON's birth registration.

[TwiggyTree]

maddys52
Thanks for that further confirmation about the passenger list.  I will need to wait until I can get to a library to see that but it totally makes sense.
And thanks for that marriage for Effie and Fred.
Will look for Fred's WW1 file.
Ada's birth date is on her death registration at least.
 

mckha489
Yes I do have the will, thank you.
No I don't have the death certificate, or the marriage certificate yet.


Mabel
Noted. Thanks for the cross-checking.

[maddys52]

Getting back to your original question about Mary STEELE, we know that she married in the Wigton Registration District in 1884 and subsequent references have her year of birth c1858. If she was in the area in 1881 there are a few possibilities, though the marriage or death certificate would help to determine if any of these were correct.

I think a likely possibility is Mary STEEL (22) born Torpenhow daughter of Ann STEEL (51, wid) farmer of 90 acres at Threapland (some 8 miles from Wigton, 4 miles from Aspatria). Bothel and Threapland is within the Wigton Registration District.
RG11/5179/61 pg 15
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2WM-VZ78

1871:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VRM9-QTP

1861:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7G7-KCD

Her birth registration - Jun qtr 1858 Cockermouth (10b/461) mmn MARTIN. So daughter of George STEEL and Ann MARTIN who married Mar qtr 1850 Cockermouth (25/73).

I can't see her in 1891, although it is difficult with a common name.

As mentioned, the marriage certificate would be needed to confirm.

[TwiggyTree]

I do think those parents are likely, maddys52, as the father's name is given to the oldest son, albeit a common name!!

Thank you very much.

I did start looking at how to order certificates from the GRO https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/faq.asp
but got a bit lost with the choices.  Does ordering online, with the reference, and requesting "Online digital image view" mean that you get sent a link wherefrom you can download it yourself in PDF? And that is the cheapest option at only £2.50? If so that is easier and cheaper than I thought it might be.   

I will have a look and re-read this thread, and perhaps take the plunge.  There is a first time for everything!