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Hi.

My great grandmother had a sister Annie Elizabeth Donbavand who was born in 1860 in Cholton Lancashire, UK. Sadly their mother died shortly after her birth and their father not long after.

I have searched and searched for Annie and think I may have found a possible marriage for her but the record I have found is in Manhattan, New York.
I cannot find any lists for sailing with her on ancestry either.
I do not have WW subscription, only UK so wondered if someone would kindly check the records for me please.

The record I have found indicates a marriage on the 4th November 1890 in Manhattan, New York.
The groom is George Slatford.

Do records in America state who the bride’s father is?
The name Annie Donbavand is quite a common name at that time.

In 1910 there is a chance that Annie and George are living in Los Angeles and have children.

Many thanks for your help.
SNG

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Re: Annie E Donbavand b 1860, Chorlton, Lancashire possible marriage Manhattan 1890
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 16 March 24 23:00 GMT (UK) »
familysearch has a lot of records and is free. you just need to sign in or set up an account and sign in.

is this her?
NYC Marriage records
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:24HN-KBM

Name   George Slatford
Sex   Male
Age   34
Birth Year (Estimated)   1856
Birthplace   Oxford, England
Marital Status   Single
Race   White
Father's Name   Georg Slatford
Father's Sex   Male
Mother's Name   Ellen Walters
Mother's Sex   Female
Spouse's Name   Annie Donbavand
Spouse's Sex   Female
Spouse's Age   32
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated)   1858
Spouse's Birthplace   Manchester, England
Spouse's Marital Status   Single
Spouse's Race   White
Spouse's Father's Name   George Donbavand
Spouse's Father's Sex   Male
Spouse's Mother's Name   Elizabeth Davis
Event Type   Marriage
Event Date   4 Nov 1890
Event Place   New York County, New York, United States
Source Details   cn 12455


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familysearch has a lot of records and is free. you just need to sign in or set up an account and sign in.

is this her?
NYC Marriage records
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:24HN-KBM

Name   George Slatford
Sex   Male
Age   34
Birth Year (Estimated)   1856
Birthplace   Oxford, England
Marital Status   Single
Race   White
Father's Name   Georg Slatford
Father's Sex   Male
Mother's Name   Ellen Walters
Mother's Sex   Female
Spouse's Name   Annie Donbavand
Spouse's Sex   Female
Spouse's Age   32
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated)   1858
Spouse's Birthplace   Manchester, England
Spouse's Marital Status   Single
Spouse's Race   White
Spouse's Father's Name   George Donbavand
Spouse's Father's Sex   Male
Spouse's Mother's Name   Elizabeth Davis
Event Type   Marriage
Event Date   4 Nov 1890
Event Place   New York County, New York, United States
Source Details   cn 12455

Marriage Certificate: https://a860-historicalvitalrecords.nyc.gov/view/7835844

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I notice the 1900 New York census has Annie SLATFORD (wife of George A C SLATFORD and mother of George) birth as August 1861 - does this fit with your Annie?
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MSVB-JWY


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There is a Hannah Elizabeth Donbavand reg. Chorlton 1857 mmn  Davies (sp)

From baptism records she was born 4 August 1857 bap 2 May 1858 daughter of George and Elizabeth
formerly Davis.

There is also an Alice Donbavand born 12 June 1859 
GRO has mmn Davis.


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Thank you everyone.

I am in the UK so have been sleeping while you have all been searching. Thanks.

Alice Donbavand is my line. She married Robert Bingley Crabtree and I have asked questions about one of their sons - Arthur, who was my Grampa’s twin brother, and “disappeared”.

Alice’s mother Elizabeth Davies (some records have her as Davis) died just after Annie was born and their father George remarried. He didn’t live that much longer.

Because of the way the enumerators have transcribed and actually written Donbavand on records, it has taken quite some time to find the correct ones. Also one would think it’s not a popular name but……!!!

From what RJ137 and oldOhiohome have written, it looks like the Annie who has married George Slatford is the right Annie.
Thank you

I shall check it out. Many thanks too for the link. I always forget Family Search. Hopefully I’ll find the names of their children obviously born in America.

The names of George and Elizabeth’s children are - Sarah Elizabeth, Mary Jane, Maria, Charles, Hannah, Alice, Annie.
I believe Maria died young.
Mary Jane married Robert Bingley Crabtree and when she died he married her sister Alice.
Sarah Elizabeth married Mark Ryder and two of their children emigrated to New Zealand.
As for Hannah and Charles - more searching is needed.

Thank you all for your help.
SNG

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They were 34 and 32 when they married and only had one child George Henry Slatford born 14 September 1891 Manhattan N.Y.  certificate number 32577.

He died 29 January 1957 Tacoma Washington. His dob is now 1889 out by 2 years.
1940 he is single
1950 he says widowed


They are  in California 1910 census.

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They were 34 and 32 when they married and only had one child George Henry Slatford born 14 September 1891 Manhattan N.Y.  certificate number 32577.

He died 29 January 1957 Tacoma Washington. His dob is now 1889 out by 2 years.
1940 he is single
1950 he says widowed

They are  in California 1910 census.

George's death record
https://www.digitalarchives.wa.gov/DigitalObject/Download/c9136f90-7c2b-4220-98d0-06b251c751ec

if that direct link doesn't work, go to this page and fill in the search:

https://www.digitalarchives.wa.gov/Search


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There is a lot on the son, George H Slatford, at familysearch if you search for his name with his date and place of birth.
He married Mary Stellmacher in Los Angeles in 1912.
The California Birth Index includes mother's maiden name and I didn't find anyone born Slatford with a mmn of Stellmacher.
1930, divorced and rooming in L.A.
1942 Draft, next of kin is not a family member.

from the "other site"
I didn't find him in the 1920 census.
On the 1920 California voter rolls - he is the only Slatford registered at his address.

1921 LA City Directory - the wives' names do not seem to be included with the husbands, as they sometimes were, so it proves nothing that he is listed by himself as a motorman living at 955 Girard.

Oddly there is a US Army Transport Service departing passenger list saying George H Slatford of Alta Vista Apartments, LA, departing 12 December 1917 from Hoboken, NJ. Nest of kin: Mary Slatford, sister.  < he had no siblings as was mentioned, at least not on the 1900 or 1910 censuses where you'd expect them.

I didn't find a WWI Draft Registration. If there is one, it will say whether he is married or not and claims an exemption for that reason.

A Marie Stellmacher marries Mark J Mead in 1919 in Los Angeles. No telling if that is the same woman. She had married a man named Wilson in LA in 1909.