James Miller and Julia McMillan

[milto1384]

Hi folks,

I was hoping someone might be able to help me. I've traced ancestors from Canada back to Scotland, but I'm struggling to find Scottish records for them.

In a Canadian 1901 census I've found James Miller (born 16 May 1852, Scotland). It says he arrived in Canada in 1872.

He married Julia McMillan on 9th Oct 1880 in Toronto, but I've found her on the 1861 Canadian census aged 1 and her father Robert McMillan, 29, Coachman was born in Scotland and his wife aged 27 was also born in Scotland.

Any information on either of these sides would be fantastic if anyone is able to help!

Regards,

Alan

[*Sandra*]

Canadian thread

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=881246.0

reply 9 included:-

Possible ??

1861 Scotland Census - Balnatink. Caithness.

John Miller   42  Isabella P Miller   42
Janet Miller   14 James Miller   9
George Miller   7 Margaret Miller   5
John Miller   2

Sandra


https://www.geni.com/people/James-Miller/6000000112217070945

[*Sandra*]

Possible for brother William Miller, witness on 1880 marriage of James Miller
Parents James and Isabella.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XYD6-TTB

Sandra

[Forfarian]

The best place to look for records of these folk before they emigrated is www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk.

According to the marriage record, both James Miller and Julia Maria Margaret McMillan were born in Toronto. His parents were John Miller and Isabel, and Julia's were Robert McMillan and Anna.

I see in the 1881 census in Toronto a family consisting of Robert McMillan, 48; Annie McMillan, 43; and John, 22; Robert, 18; Charles, 16; Thomas, 11; James, 9; Agnes, 7; and Alexander, 4.

There are index listings at FamilySearch of the deaths of two sons of Robert McMillan and Ann Roy; Charles, born 14 February 1865, d 1936, and Alexander, born 30 January 1877, d 1956, who would match the ages in the 1881 census. So I think it is likely that Julia's mother's name is Ann or Anna Roy.

Robert McMillan and Ann Roy were married in the parish of Anstruther Wester, county of Fife, Scotland, in 1857. You can view their marriage certificate online at Scotland's People for a modest fee. It will tell you the names of their parents including their mothers' maiden surnames.

[*Sandra*]

Obit/Death Notice for Robert McMillan

The Province
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
Mon, 22 Aug 1910
Page 8

https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-province/143621220/

Event Type: Death Registration Number:1910-09-12

1910-08-20 Event Place: VANCOUVER - Age at Death:83

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01t2e/

Annie Roy McMillan -  18/2/1910

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01t2f/



Sandra

[*Sandra*]

marriage Ann Roy and Robert McMillan - Anstruther Wester, Fife, Scotland - 1857

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XTGY-WZ3

Ann Roy - McMillan Robert - 1857 - 403 / 1 - Anstruther Werster -


1871 Canadian Census St Georges Ward, Toronto West, Ontario.

Robt Mc Millan 37  Labourer.
Ann Mc Millan   35
John Mc Millan 12 Julia Mc Millan 11
Robert J Mc Millan 8 Charles Mc Millan 6
Jane Mc Millan 4 Thomas Mc Millan 2
James Mc Millan 0

Sandra

[Forfarian]

marriage Ann Roy and Robert McMillan - Anstruther Wester, Fife, Scotland - 1857
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XTGY-WZ3
Sandra

Indeed, but the original document will provide useful information that isn't contained in familysearch, where there is only an index.

[*Sandra*]

Interesting family tree on ancestry if you have access. Obviously info would need checked out.
A link here if you subscribe.

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/family-tree/person/tree/79490851/person/172363313205/facts?_phsrc=Srt27&_phstart=successSource

parents of Robert McMillan listed as James McMillan 1801–1854
born abt 1801 - Dumfriesshire, Scotland died 8 August 1854 - Pittston, Luzerne, Pennsylvania.

and Mary Law 1801–1874 (note the death date differs from the information on the geneanet Community Tree - 1851) born abt 1801 - Wanlockhead, Dumfriesshire, Scotland died 8174 Scotland ??

FIND A GRAVE

1798 - 1854

West Pittston Cemetery
West Pittston, Luzerne County, Pennsylvania.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/28317033/james-mcmillan

Geneanet Community Trees Index - shows another generation back.


https://gw.geneanet.org/raydick?n=mcmillan&oc=4&p=james

[*Sandra*]

1851    Wanlockhead, Dumfries.

James Mcmillan 52 Head
Mary Mcmillan 56 Wife
Agnes Mcmillan   28   Daughter
Charles Mcmillan 21 Son
Robert Mcmillan 16 Son
James Mcmillan 14 Son

I came across an obit for Robert's sister Agnes McMillan who had married in 1851 to Howatson

Pittston Gazette
Pittston, Pennsylvania
Wed, 31 Aug 1910
Page 1

https://www.newspapers.com/article/pittston-gazette-agnes-mcmillan-howatson/5979992/

Sandra