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John GORDON and Elizabeth KIDLEY
« on: Tuesday 19 March 24 11:11 GMT (UK) »
John Gordon (possibly of Croydon, Surrey) and Elizabeth Kidley of Monmouthshire were both in the States c1880-1890. They had a son, Jack Wilmington Gordon born in Delaware about 1890, returning to Britain the following year.
Can anyone discover if they married in the USA or if there is any record of either of them there in that period? I believe John had travelled out to the States in 1873, aged 3 with his mother Catherine and siblings Thomas and Mary to join his father Henry.

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Re: John GORDON and Elizabeth KIDLEY
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 19 March 24 11:52 GMT (UK) »


Is this Elizabeth Kidley ??

Elizabeth Annie Kidley - 1872
Baptism Date   11 Feb 1872 Monmouth St Mary, Monmouthshire, Wales
Father    John Kidley - Mother    Mary Ann Kidley.

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Re: John GORDON and Elizabeth KIDLEY
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 19 March 24 11:59 GMT (UK) »
Background info ..........

There is a marriage for a Elizabeth Kidley in 1901 to Noah Vaughan. Monmouthshire - 11a 53

Then this family appear on the 1901 Wales Census

Noah Vaughan 55 Head
Elizabeth Vaughan   30   Wife
John Gordan 10 Stepson (Step Son) born USA
Elizabeth Gordan 8 Stepdaughter (Step Daughter) born Newcastle Monmouthshire
Nellie Gordan 6 Stepdaughter (Step Daughter) born Newcastle Monmouthshire
Alfred Gordan 3 Stepson (Step Son) born Newcastle Monmouthshire.

Can't see a birth record for John Gordon in Delaware

https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/1534607

Family Search Delaware Marriage Records start in 1913

https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/1609795

and 1713 - 1919 nothing listed.

https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/1674782

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Re: John GORDON and Elizabeth KIDLEY
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 19 March 24 12:34 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Sandra, yes that's them. Elizabeth and John may have married in the States but when she married Noah Vaughan she used her maiden name. I've no idea what she was doing in the US at such a young age, but it may be connected to the Rolls family who had interests/properties in both the area of Monmouthshire she came from and returned to and Wilmington Delaware.

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Re: John GORDON and Elizabeth KIDLEY
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 19 March 24 16:03 GMT (UK) »
 John Charles Wilmington Gordon age 22 married 3 July 1915 to Edith Amy Hudson age 21 he said his father was Noah Gordon a blacksmith. At Llantilio Crossenny, Monmouth.

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Perhaps used his step father's first name and then Gordon
Ref: ancestry

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Re: John GORDON and Elizabeth KIDLEY
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 19 March 24 16:08 GMT (UK) »
Strange .........just a few things to note.

Nellie Ada GORDAN on GRO

GORDAN, NELLIE  ADA     KIDLEY 
GRO Reference: 1895  M Quarter in MONMOUTH  Volume 11A  Page 45

Alfred Ernest GORDAN on GRO

GORDAN, ALFRED  ERNEST     KIDLEY 
GRO Reference: 1897  J Quarter in MONMOUTH  Volume 11A  Page 331

and John Charles Wilmington Gordon on his marriage 3 rd July 1915 names his father as
Noah Gordon (Blacksmith) spouse Edith Amy Hudson.

We have a birth date in 1939 for John C W Gordon as 10 th August 1890.

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Re: John GORDON and Elizabeth KIDLEY
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 19 March 24 16:08 GMT (UK) »
1921 Census  they have 4 children, Gwendoline, Maud, John and Rona.

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Re: John GORDON and Elizabeth KIDLEY
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 19 March 24 16:16 GMT (UK) »
1880 census - Is this John Gordon in Rhode Island? Father Henry is a tailor from Ireland.

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Re: John GORDON and Elizabeth KIDLEY
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 19 March 24 16:18 GMT (UK) »
Nellie Ada Gordon was bap. 1 January 1895 daughter of John and Elizabeth Gordon
Llangattock, Monmouthshire
Father was a Gardener address Tooting London.