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Offline Welly07

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Grandads bio dad
« on: Tuesday 19 March 24 17:29 GMT (UK) »
Hello all

I'm trying to trace my grandads biological father. My grandad was born to a Maggie Jamieson end of January 1933. She died a few months after he was born and he was adopted by his aunt and her husband.

Story we have is his biological father was a traveling boxer going by the name of kid johnson/jonhston/johnstone.

It's been a story passed down by word of mouth. My grandad was born in Glasgow I believe but out family hails from Lochwinnoch.

Iv struggled to find any real names of boxers at that time just the fighter names so can't check if names match any relations on ancestry websites.

Thanks in advance

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Re: Grandads bio dad
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 19 March 24 20:22 GMT (UK) »
Newspapers mention a Kid Johnston "a sturdy Greenock boxer" in 1932
There is also an American Kid Johnston  mentioned in 1943.
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Re: Grandads bio dad
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 19 March 24 20:30 GMT (UK) »
There is this photograph from 1932  ?
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Re: Grandads bio dad
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 19 March 24 21:15 GMT (UK) »
DNA would be your better way forward.  Family stories are not always a good basis for research of this nature.
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Re: Grandads bio dad
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 19 March 24 21:21 GMT (UK) »
I would agree with DNA

This one seems to have been in Glasgow

https://boxerlist.com/boxer/kid-johnstone/119412/

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Re: Grandads bio dad
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 19 March 24 21:21 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for the replies.

Don't think he was American and found few boxers with similar names around that time but no real name to be able to search.

I have matchs on ancestry that have similar amounts of dna that works out roughly as having the same great grandparents , iv tried reaching out to them and either they don't answer or they know as little as I do

They are not connected to any side that iv traced but all connected to each other

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Re: Grandads bio dad
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 19 March 24 21:47 GMT (UK) »
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: Grandads bio dad
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 19 March 24 21:55 GMT (UK) »
First name for him:

CELTIC BACK FINED FOR PLAYING FOOTBALL ON ROAD
Edinburgh Evening News - Friday 20 May 1932
At Greenock J.P. Court yesterday, William Cook, the Celtic right back; Mark (Kid) Johnstone, a well-known Scottish boxer, and a Greenock man, James Sloan, were each fined 2s 6d for having played football on the public road near the village of Inverkip, The Fiscal remarked that one would have thought that a professional footballer and a professional boxer would have got plenty of practice without playing football the street, unless it was a case of- keeping themselves in training. All three gave wrong names and addresses to policeman. Johnstone stated that the constable was in plain clothes and had been playing golf. They did not know that he was police officer, and they felt that they did not require give their names to anyone who happened to ask them. They had only, been kicking the ball for a few seconds.

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Re: Grandads bio dad
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 19 March 24 21:59 GMT (UK) »
Welly, how old was Maggie when she died in 1933?

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