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Re: need help finding a death certificate
« Reply #9 on: Friday 22 March 24 16:39 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Nell and arthuruk

I've had the burial register entry back from the DRO in Matlock, He died in the Union Workhouse (parish of Markeaton), but the handwriting in 'flourishy' which leads me to suspect it is a transcription error.
I've tried everything I can think of but still draw a blank.

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Re: need help finding a death certificate
« Reply #10 on: Friday 22 March 24 16:40 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
His name is James Halladay d1879 Derby buried 21 Nov 1879. 
I've tried similar sounding and phonetically similar alternatives but nothing.
Also tried BMD but no results

How old was your James said to be at his burial?

age 52

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Re: need help finding a death certificate
« Reply #11 on: Friday 22 March 24 16:47 GMT (UK) »
Sorry arthuruk - edited my post above as you posted.

No problem, and thanks for the apology - some people wouldn't have bothered  ::)

I've had the burial register entry back from the DRO in Matlock, He died in the Union Workhouse (parish of Markeaton), but the handwriting in 'flourishy' which leads me to suspect it is a transcription error.
I've tried everything I can think of but still draw a blank.

Do you mean a transcription error for the burial register? We have transcription and deciphering experts here who could give an opinion, if you wanted to upload an image.

If he died in the workhouse, it's possible they got his name wrong when registering the death.
Researching among others:
Bartle, Bilton, Bingley, Campbell, Craven, Emmott, Harcourt, Hirst, Kellet(t), Kennedy,
Meaburn, Mennile/Meynell, Metcalf(e), Palliser, Robinson, Rutter, Shipley, Stow, Wilkinson

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Re: need help finding a death certificate
« Reply #12 on: Friday 22 March 24 16:54 GMT (UK) »
Sorry arthuruk - edited my post above as you posted.

No problem, and thanks for the apology - some people wouldn't have bothered  ::)

I've had the burial register entry back from the DRO in Matlock, He died in the Union Workhouse (parish of Markeaton), but the handwriting in 'flourishy' which leads me to suspect it is a transcription error.
I've tried everything I can think of but still draw a blank.

Do you mean a transcription error for the burial register? We have transcription and deciphering experts here who could give an opinion, if you wanted to upload an image.

If he died in the workhouse, it's possible they got his name wrong when registering the death.

The name is definitely right.
I've attached a pdf of the burial index
Thank you


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Re: need help finding a death certificate
« Reply #13 on: Friday 22 March 24 16:59 GMT (UK) »
That does not give a lot of information does it, no reference to his age or anything else.  Are any other people mentioned on the page or was it cropped like that when you received it.
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Re: need help finding a death certificate
« Reply #14 on: Friday 22 March 24 17:06 GMT (UK) »
Thanks - that's fairly clear. I'm afraid I'm running out of ideas.

For info, in case you haven't tried: at FreeBMD you can search with just a forename, or just an age (or range of ages). You'd need to narrow it down by quarter, and maybe a county, but see what comes up.
Researching among others:
Bartle, Bilton, Bingley, Campbell, Craven, Emmott, Harcourt, Hirst, Kellet(t), Kennedy,
Meaburn, Mennile/Meynell, Metcalf(e), Palliser, Robinson, Rutter, Shipley, Stow, Wilkinson

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Re: need help finding a death certificate
« Reply #15 on: Friday 22 March 24 17:13 GMT (UK) »
Thanks - that's fairly clear. I'm afraid I'm running out of ideas.

For info, in case you haven't tried: at FreeBMD you can search with just a forename, or just an age (or range of ages). You'd need to narrow it down by quarter, and maybe a county, but see what comes up.

Thanks for all your help.  I'll keep trying but I think this one might just be a mystery.  It;s not the first ancestor Ive had without a death entry (and strangely enough, it's the same surname too LOL!)

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Re: need help finding a death certificate
« Reply #16 on: Friday 22 March 24 20:42 GMT (UK) »
Nottingham Road Cemetery burial register is on FamilySearch
Third from bottom, buried 21 Nov 1879
James Halladay, Blacksmith, 52, Abode Union Workhouse
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DWP9-KBG

Re Arthurk and Little Nell's suggestion

Searching the whole of Derbyshire at FreeBMD brings up James Halliday, age 63, who died in the Belper district in Dec qtr 1879. It's only just up the road...

Two images on (441), there are a couple of burials from the workhouse on 26 Nov.
The second one is Joseph Jackson, 38.
Joseph is in the GRO index for Dec qtr 1879 @ Belper 7b 348
And with the same reference is James Halliday, age 63

Could also Ann Greer, 72, on GRO 7b 348, be the Mary Ann Green, 72, the workhouse burial above JJ? :-\

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Re: need help finding a death certificate
« Reply #17 on: Friday 22 March 24 21:02 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
His name is James Halladay d1879 Derby buried 21 Nov 1879. 
I've tried similar sounding and phonetically similar alternatives but nothing.
Also tried BMD but no results

How old was your James said to be at his burial?

age 52

So we can 100% rule out the 63 year old who died in 1879. I know you said you had but I just wanted to clarify your James Halliday's age so we can totally rule it out.
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LONDON, Coombs, Roberts, Auber, Helsdon, Fradine, Morin, Goodacre
DORSET Coombs, Munday
NORFOLK Helsdon, Riches, Harbord, Budery
KENT Roberts, Goodacre
SUSSEX Walder, Boniface, Dinnage, Standen, Lee, Botten, Wickham, Jupp
SUFFOLK Titshall, Frost, Fairweather, Mayhew, Archer, Eade, Scarfe
DURHAM Stewart, Musgrave, Wilson, Forster
SCOTLAND Stewart in Selkirk
USA Musgrave, Saix
ESSEX Cornwell, Stock, Quilter, Lawrence, Whale, Clift
OXON Edgington, Smith, Inkpen, Snell, Batten, Brain