Two Bessie Peters - one person?

[Mabel Bagshawe]

I think this is Alfred and Alice in 1881 - ages a little out

22 Chippendale Rd, Hackney

William Wyatt 60  - draughtsman to solicitor b Westminster
Caroline Wyatt  53 - b Oxfordshire
Laura Wyatt   20
Alfred Wyatt    18  b Bethnal Green, clerk, general
Alice Wyatt      15  b Bethnal green

It would appear Alfred  joined the army in 1886, giving his age as 19

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With a bit of digging around I've found records of Alfred Edward Wyatt's admission into the local lunatic ward before he was moved to Colney Hatch

That's all extremely helpful - what site(s) has this data please?

[Mabel Bagshawe]

It's on Ancestry, but takes some digging around in un-indexed collections of scans

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It's on Ancestry, but takes some digging around in un-indexed collections of scans

I am open to instruction - "give a man a fish" etc...

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Mabel has given some great background on the Wyatt connection, but I have broken down and ordered the 1907 Wyatt/Amott marriage cert.

Here's hoping for useful/unambiguous information!

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This is Alice's marriage - the dob matches an admission of an Alice Barnes in 1900 to Bexley Heath asylum

Alice Wyatt, 26
Father    William Wyatt (deceased), draughtsman

Joseph Barnes, 33, widower, painter

Marriage  1 Jul 1896, All Saints, Camden Town
Address 13 Pratt St

Interesting - on the baptism cert of Victoria Florence Maud Wyatt, Alfred gives "Painter" as his occupation, and 13 Pratt St as residence.

pursuing 13 Pratt St (via Electoral Registers)

1894 - No (voting) resident
1895 - Frederick William Cole (successive from 1 Anglers Lane)
1896 - Frederick William Cole
1897 - Frederick William Cole
1898 - No (voting) resident
1899 - Emmanuel King (successive from 81a Bayham St)
1900 - Emannuel King
1901 - No (voting) resident

I attach an irrelevant but amusing newspaper clipping about Mr King.

Islington Gazette

14 July 1899

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I think this is Alfred and Alice in 1881 - ages a little out

22 Chippendale Rd, Hackney

William Wyatt 60  - draughtsman to solicitor b Westminster
Caroline Wyatt  53 - b Oxfordshire
Laura Wyatt   20
Alfred Wyatt    18  b Bethnal Green, clerk, general
Alice Wyatt      15  b Bethnal green

It would appear Alfred  joined the army in 1886, giving his age as 19

Pursuing the family, the births align nicely with the GRO index:

WYATT, LAURA FRANCES CRIPPS
GRO Reference: 1860 J Quarter in BETHNAL GREEN Volume 01C Page 209

WYATT, ALFRED EDWARD CRIPPS
GRO Reference: 1862 S Quarter in BETHNAL GREEN Volume 01C Page 228
 
WYATT, ALICE ELIZABETH CRIPPS
GRO Reference: 1866 M Quarter in BETHNAL GREEN Volume 01C Page 227

[Mabel Bagshawe]

It's on Ancestry, but takes some digging around in un-indexed collections of scans

I am open to instruction - "give a man a fish" etc...

It helps that we had a date for admission to Colney Hatch  - this usual involves  stay in a local workhouse first. The admission record also linked him to St Pancras poor law union

I dug around in the collection London, England, Poor Law and Board of Guardian Records, 1738-1926, looking at the St Pancras records. It's really luck there's a copy of the Daily Journal, Male Insane Wards, 1904-1906 amongst the images. A bit of spooling around found the record from 15 May 1905, which records Wyatt's examination at 10:45 at being sent to Colney Hatch

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/1557/images/31363_a108820-00127?ssrc=&backlabel=Return

Scrolling back I found previous references to Wyatt, earlier in May (the visitors to the wards and a previous examination on 10 May)

If you click on the various parts of the image heading Camden - St Pancras etc you get drop down menus for al the record types and files available. Click on the last one and you should find, if you scroll far enough down, Reception Orders 1905. I know these record the process of admitting to an asylum (a bit like modern section papers). This book covers the period in May when we know AEW was moved. I'll leave you to work your way through and find his record

[Mabel Bagshawe]

However, I'm still failing to find a marriage for Bessie & Alfred