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William BATCHELOR and Charlotte BELCHER
« on: Friday 22 March 24 17:57 GMT (UK) »
William BATCHELOR and Charlotte BELCHER are shown as having married in Hemel Hempstead in January 1852 and post that date appear untraceable. They are not found in Hertfordshire or London, nor in locations their family are found.

Whilst a William and Charlotte BATCHELOR are recorded as having lived in the area for numerous years, unfortunately it is not that family I am tracing. This particular Charlotte was prior to marriage a RICKETT(s).

I have not found any indication that they may have emigrated nor relevant death records : To me they appear lost, so if any other researchers are able to indicate a trace that would be most appreciated.

My thanks in advance.

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Re: William BATCHELOR and Charlotte BELCHER
« Reply #1 on: Friday 22 March 24 18:06 GMT (UK) »
William BATCHELOR and Charlotte BELCHER are shown as having married in Hemel Hempstead in January 1852 and post that date appear untraceable. They are not found in Hertfordshire or London, nor in locations their family are found.

What information does the marriage give for their fathers
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Re: William BATCHELOR and Charlotte BELCHER
« Reply #2 on: Friday 22 March 24 19:44 GMT (UK) »
update : details from wedding cert.

William BATCHELOR (also found spelt as BACHELOR ) son of William BACHELOR : Farmer

Charlotte BELCHER daughter of William BELCHER : Shoemaker.
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As best I can trace, it looks like William BATCHELOR was born around 1827 : I believe him to be son of William BACHELOR and Mary TOLLY, though as yet no baptism found to support. (see below)

I have found him recorded 1841 census as William BATCHELOR born in county. Then later, as William HASTINGS, a Baker, in the 1851 census, living with his widowed mother and some siblings in Hemel Hempstead.
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Whereas Charlotte BELCHER was daughter of William BELCHER and Harriet COOK, baptised 1829 in Hemel Hempstead.

She is found 1841 census born in county, living with with her parents and later in 1851, still with parents and shown as a plaiter (straw probably).
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Other researchers have shown that Mary TOLLY had first been married to a Richard HASTINGS and was then a widow, at the time of her marriage to William BATCHELOR in November 1828 in Chelsea, London.

Which might suggest the HASTINGS surname in the 1851 census, but clearly was not reflected in the 1851 Marriage Banns or 1852 Marriage Registration.

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Re: William BATCHELOR and Charlotte BELCHER
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 23 March 24 00:21 GMT (UK) »
Hi
From the 1851 census your William Hastings in Hemel Hempstead with his mother Mary Batchelor was born in Rickmansworth. There is a non conformist Protestant birth registration on Ancestry dated 4 Feb 1833 for a William Hastings, son of Richard Hastings of Batchworth (Rickmansworth) Hertfordshire a Paper Maker & Mary his wife, the daughter of Joseph Tolley, was born at the house of the said Richard Hastings in Batchworth on the 11th May 1826. It is signed by Mary Batchelor as the named parent. Richard died in Oct 1826 in Rickmansworth. There is a William Hastings born Rickmansworth living in St Pancras with a wife Fanny in 1871, could he be your William.  ???

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Re: William BATCHELOR and Charlotte BELCHER
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 23 March 24 01:38 GMT (UK) »
1851 census for William Hastings with the Bachelor family
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGBL-LMZ

 1841 - for the Batchelor family in the same place (Bury Mill Hill)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQY6-29Y

The William and Fanny in 1871 census mentioned by Maddie.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VB68-LCL

Their marriage 25 Oct 1855 St Pancras, Camden
William Montague Hastings, full age, bachelor, Porter, Thanet St, Father – Richard Hastings dead
Fanny Coles, full age, spinster, Father – Jonas Coles, mason

The baptism of their 1st son Walter William Hastings 22 Aug 1858 was in Somerset, but gives their abode as St Pancras, London. William was a clerk with the railways. Walter’s birth registration is in 1857 ST Pancras.

The 2 youngest children appear to be Montague Hastings (1870) and Charlotte Elizabeth Hastings (1872)


In 1881 census we have Montague Hastings Hoskings age 11 and Charlotte E Hasting Hoskings Age 9 living with the Uncle William Gurney and Aunt Mary Anne in Bedford.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27C-67J4

In the 1871 census Mary Ann Bachelor (nee Tolley) is with the same Gurney family.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VFFQ-CMF


There is a burial on 21st Oct 1880 for a Mr Hastings in St Giles without Cripplegate
Possible registration in Pancras, age 58. Age is not quite right, so I don't know.
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Re: William BATCHELOR and Charlotte BELCHER
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 23 March 24 10:10 GMT (UK) »
Many thanks, will peruse and see if any matches become evident.

Brian E