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Edith Abrahams 1884
« on: Saturday 23 March 24 20:23 GMT (UK) »
Hi I came across a census for the below person at Winson Green, Birmingham prison.  I can’t find out why Edith Abrahams was convicted as it doesn’t state why.  What resources could I use to try and find out why she was imprisoned?  Could anyone take a look to see if you can locate a record about this?  Thanks

Name   Edith Abrahams
Age in 1911   25
Estimated Birth Year   abt 1886
Relation to Head   Prisoner
Gender   Female
Birth Place   Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
Civil parish   Birmingham
County/Island   Warwickshire
Country   England
Marital Status   Single
Occupation   Formerley Wrapping Up (Jewelry)
Registration District Number   384
Sub-registration district   All Saints
ED, institution, or vessel   28-32

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Re: Edith Abrahams 1884
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 24 March 24 05:59 GMT (UK) »
She is in the City Asylum not in prison.

Tab back to the first page. (13 if you are looking at it on ancestry)

1929 Dolly Abrahams and Edith Abrahams are on Spencer Street, Birmingham

CORRECTED
I went back too far, the asylum is page 13

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Re: Edith Abrahams 1884
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 24 March 24 06:16 GMT (UK) »
1911 her brothers Ernest 1895 age 15 and Albert 1898  age 13 are in the Industrial School for Jewish Boys in Middlesex.


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Re: Edith Abrahams 1884
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 24 March 24 07:12 GMT (UK) »
Are there two Ediths?
You have 1884 in your title but the one you quote is b 1886.

She is in the City Asylum not in prison.

Tab back to the first page. (13 if you are looking at it on ancestry)

1929 Dolly Abrahams and Edith Abrahams are on Spencer Street, Birmingham

The one I am looking at is described as a Prisoner in H M Prison, Winson Green Road, Birmingham

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See pg 44, amondg.
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Re: Edith Abrahams 1884
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 24 March 24 07:17 GMT (UK) »
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She is in the City Asylum not in prison

It's Winson Green Prison. See Ancestry image 44:

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/2352/images/rg14_18060_0091_31
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Re: Edith Abrahams 1884
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 24 March 24 07:19 GMT (UK) »
Thank you. I just added to my post, Shaun, when I saw yours.
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Re: Edith Abrahams 1884
« Reply #6 on: Monday 25 March 24 09:49 GMT (UK) »
Hi
I've had a look at Birmingham Prisoner Calender up to 1922 on Ancestry and no luck and no mention of her in the Newspaper archive. Nothing in the Prisoner archives for Warwickshire either.
I tried the Roll of Suffragettes prisoners just in case ,but it's not comprehensive.

Sorry don't know what else to suggest

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Re: Edith Abrahams 1884
« Reply #7 on: Monday 25 March 24 14:28 GMT (UK) »
I tried the Roll of Suffragettes prisoners just in case ,but it's not comprehensive.

If it helps, here is a list of suffragette names at HMS Winson Green in 1909:

https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C4746647

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Re: Edith Abrahams 1884
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 26 March 24 10:30 GMT (UK) »
Are there two Ediths?
You have 1884 in your title but the one you quote is b 1886.

She is in the City Asylum not in prison.

Tab back to the first page. (13 if you are looking at it on ancestry)

1929 Dolly Abrahams and Edith Abrahams are on Spencer Street, Birmingham

The one I am looking at is described as a Prisoner in H M Prison, Winson Green Road, Birmingham

Added
See pg 44, amondg.

Edith was born 1884
ABRAHAMS, EDITH       TONGUE 
GRO Reference: 1884  J Quarter in BIRMINGHAM  Volume 06D  Page 233

I think without looking that she was 25 in the census so not sure if same person.  However I looked on the gro and couldn’t see another Edith Abrahams from Birmingham