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Walter PENKETH, born 1833, Salford, Lancashire
« on: Sunday 24 March 24 13:42 GMT (UK) »

Hello,

I wonder if anyone can confirm or otherwise that the above Walter PENKETH has any connection to the person below ??? ???

Grey River Argus, Volume VII, Issue 464, 5 January 1869, Page 2
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/GRA18690105.2.8

'A young man named Walter Penketh, better known as Wat. the Baker, died here on Monday morning, after only a week's illness...

Thank you for your help.

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Re: Walter PENKETH, born 1833, Salford, Lancashire
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 24 March 24 17:18 GMT (UK) »
A tree on Ancestry has him moving from NZ to Australia & dying there in 1900.  Does not show any supporting evidence so you could try contacting the tree owner for more info
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Re: Walter PENKETH, born 1833, Salford, Lancashire
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 24 March 24 17:39 GMT (UK) »

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Re: Walter PENKETH, born 1833, Salford, Lancashire
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 26 March 24 05:25 GMT (UK) »
Hi BAC3,

It's good to see you back.

To provide some context to the article in the Grey River Argus, the news was provided by a correspondent from Nelson Creek.

Reed's Place Names of New Zealand describes Nelson Creek as located 8km from Ngahere on the West Coast (e.g. Westland), 'The stream is a tributary of the Grey River/Mawheranui, previously known as Mill Creek. The locality was previously known as Hatters Terrace. A hatter was a fossicker for gold (a hatter was nearly lynched here under suspicion of starting a duffer's rush but his find proved payable).'

The locality is now known as Nelson Creek Recreation Reserve.

The article implies that Walter PENKETH was interred at or near Nelson Creek. Can anyone find a record of any historial burials in the area?

I cannot find a matching death entry on NZ BDM for this man under the spelling PENKETH.

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Re: Walter PENKETH, born 1833, Salford, Lancashire
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 26 March 24 05:32 GMT (UK) »
Find a Grave have this list of eighty-two interments at Nelson Creek Cemetery, but no PENKETH appears.

https://www.findagrave.com/cemetery/2566314/memorial-search?cemeteryName=Nelson%20Creek%20Cemetery&page=1#sr-141512891

Addendum: the web page reports that only 55% of the memorials have been photographed.

I suggest that you contact the Westland Genealogy Group in case they can help. I have found this PDF file on line but no website.
https://files.ehive.com/accounts/202148/objects/files/7935337bbae145cf91f05d5829545787.pdf

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Re: Walter PENKETH, born 1833, Salford, Lancashire
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 26 March 24 09:19 GMT (UK) »
Good Morning spades,

Thank you for the welcome 8)

Master PENKETH has proved problematic indeed.   From Western Australia to Victoria to NZ back to Victoria then to England back to Victoria and finally the reference in the Grey River Argus.   I must admit finding it odd that his reported death did not appear in the NZ BDM!!!   His movements above are really the only "contacts", otherwise he remains totally elusive.   No mention in the newspapers, no family history evident from Family Trees??

That infamous pending tray is rearing its head once more!!!   Certainly I will consider the Westland Genealogy Group.   Thank you for that suggestion.

Take care,

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Re: Walter PENKETH, born 1833, Salford, Lancashire
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 27 March 24 03:44 GMT (UK) »
I wonder if NZBDM have mis-transcribed his name, perhaps? And wildcard searching isn't available on the website.

I was going suggest that you try the Westland branch of NZSG, the History House Museum at Greytown and the Hokitika Museum, but it appears that the first two are defunct while the latter is temporally temporarily (sheesh ::)) closed.

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Re: Walter PENKETH, born 1833, Salford, Lancashire
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 27 March 24 04:23 GMT (UK) »
I wonder if NZBDM have mis-transcribed his name, perhaps? And wildcard searching isn't available on the website.

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Using a full stop (.) in the surname field on NZ BDMs, instead of a name, allows you to search a short date range for mistranscriptions very easily.  But there is not one that looks like Walter between Christmas Day 1868 & 4 th January 1869




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Re: Walter PENKETH, born 1833, Salford, Lancashire
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 27 March 24 05:43 GMT (UK) »
Thanks very much for the tip Mckha, I didn't know that was possible.

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