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1921 Census - Colliery Work Job Title
« on: Monday 25 March 24 11:48 GMT (UK) »
Hi
Does anyone know what this might be, please?  The top two lines belong to the same person.
It's clearly 'Coal Miner ? Workman' but what's the '?', please? 
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Re: 1921 Census - Colliery Work Job Title
« Reply #1 on: Monday 25 March 24 11:50 GMT (UK) »
Day  :-\
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Re: 1921 Census - Colliery Work Job Title
« Reply #2 on: Monday 25 March 24 11:52 GMT (UK) »
I'd say Day too

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Re: 1921 Census - Colliery Work Job Title
« Reply #3 on: Monday 25 March 24 11:52 GMT (UK) »
I see Day too.
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Re: 1921 Census - Colliery Work Job Title
« Reply #4 on: Monday 25 March 24 11:54 GMT (UK) »
Day Workman, i.e. paid by the day, not by contract
see day wageman here http://www.dmm.org.uk/educate/mineocc.htm#d

In County Durham they were also known as 'datalers'.
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Re: 1921 Census - Colliery Work Job Title
« Reply #5 on: Monday 25 March 24 11:56 GMT (UK) »
Thank you all SO much!  It's been transcribed as 'Dairy Working', so I was a bit blinkered by that.  Then I'm thinking, who works down a pit, for a full hard shift and then has time and energy to milk cows?  I knew it had to be something different to Dairy but couldn't figure it out!!

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Re: 1921 Census - Colliery Work Job Title
« Reply #6 on: Monday 25 March 24 11:58 GMT (UK) »
From the Dictionary of Occupational Terms:

day labourer, day hand, day man, day wage hand, day wage man ; dataller, datal worker, dateller, datler, dilker (Lancs.), odd worker, off hand man, wage man
general terms for men or boys employed above or below ground and paid by the day; may be employed and paid by the owners direct, or by a contractor (041) (q.v.); those below ground are mostly employed in constructional and repair work, timbering, roofing, laying roadways, clearing away debris, etc.

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Re: 1921 Census - Colliery Work Job Title
« Reply #7 on: Monday 25 March 24 16:39 GMT (UK) »
Roger Dataller was a pen name adopted by Arthur A Eaglestone.  He had worked in the steel and coal industries in Yorkshire before gaining a scholarship to Oxford.  One of his titles was A Pitman looks at Oxford.

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Re: 1921 Census - Colliery Work Job Title
« Reply #8 on: Monday 25 March 24 17:49 GMT (UK) »
You might be interested in this website.

Colliery workers and dockyard workers would wait at the gates hoping to be cholsen to work that day .  At the gate would stand the "Tallyman2 who handed out tokens to men in the crowd.  Many men would go home to their families if the tallyman hadn't chosen them to work that day

I lived in a port and used to see about 10,000 men waiting at the various dockyards.

https://museum.wales/articles/1072/Colliery-checks-and-tokens/
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