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Re: Gertrude Mary Giltinan
« Reply #9 on: Monday 25 March 24 17:10 GMT (UK) »
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Thanks, but this Gertrude Giltinan was aged 89 when she died, so wouldn't have been active in WW1
Her death registration says she was 29 which is the correct age.
I would suggest she was buried in Ireland possibly Cork as that's where here family were.
The link haliared put up has her aged 38 which is also incorrect.
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
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Re: Gertrude Mary Giltinan
« Reply #10 on: Monday 25 March 24 17:13 GMT (UK) »
Ancestry Family Tree -


Gertrude M Giltinan 1881–
BIRTH 9 NOV1881 • 3, Greenmount, terrace, Friars, walk, Cork, Cork, Ireland
DEATH Unknown

Bishopstown Cork Ireland in 1911

Daniel F Giltinan 68
Elizabeth Giltinan60
Mary Giltinan   32
Michael Lewes Giltinan   30
Gertrude Giltinan   29
Norah Giltinan   28
Samuel J Giltinan   26
Teresa Giltinan   27
Francis B Giltinan

https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Cork/Bishopstown/Gurteenaspig__part_of__Rural_/402473/

https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai001898757/

1901 census    Raheen and Cooleen, Blackrock, Cork, Ireland.

Daniel Francis M Giltinan   58
Elizabeth J Giltinan   49
Francis B Giltinan   23
Mary Ceceila Giltinan   22
Michael L Giltinan   20
Nora S Giltinan   18
Daniel J Giltinan   16
Teresa P Giltinan   14
Gertrude M Giltinan   19

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01t2w/

https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Cork/Blackrock/Raheen_and_Cooleen/1116437/

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Re: Gertrude Mary Giltinan
« Reply #11 on: Monday 25 March 24 17:19 GMT (UK) »
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Re: Gertrude Mary Giltinan
« Reply #12 on: Monday 25 March 24 17:20 GMT (UK) »
Might be worth checking if Gertrude is buried in a family plot at this cemetery ?

Brother Francis Giltinan born 1878 - died 22 October 1938

Burial
24Oct1938  St, Finbarrs, Cemetry, Cork, Cork, Ireland.

Death Notice Evening Echo Newspaper 22Oct 1938 Buried in Section E Row 14 Plot 25. St Finbarrs Cemetery

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Re: Gertrude Mary Giltinan
« Reply #13 on: Monday 25 March 24 17:33 GMT (UK) »
https://www.iwm.org.uk/history/spanish-flu-the-unseen-enemy

"Social and medical services were overwhelmed during the peaks of the virus. Doctors and nurses were scarce due to the war and to the scale of the pandemic. "

"With so many people dying, the bodies of those who had passed away were sometimes stacked on top of one another, in coffins or wrapped in cloth. Wood for coffins ran out, and gravediggers and undertakers could not keep up with demand. The dead were taken to the cemeteries by the lorry load. In some places, mass graves had to be used in order to bury the dead quickly enough."

"In some countries, including the United Kingdom and New Zealand, the peak of the mortality was in November 1918, in the midst of peace celebrations. Mass jubilation and cheering crowds also helped to spread the virus, and death tolls peaked in the days following the celebrations as the virus worked its course."

Does anyone know if there is a list of people buried in mass graves over this time period?
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Re: Gertrude Mary Giltinan
« Reply #14 on: Monday 25 March 24 17:37 GMT (UK) »
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24Oct1938  St, Finbarrs, Cemetry, Cork, Cork, Ireland.
Just checked the Municipal records for this cemetery but she's not there
although the images are quite difficult to read.
Feel free if anyone wants to take a look:
https://publications.corkarchives.ie/view/173026802/
You need to go the the end around p. 170.
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
Census information is Crown copyright,from
www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/

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Re: Gertrude Mary Giltinan
« Reply #15 on: Monday 25 March 24 17:39 GMT (UK) »
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24Oct1938  St, Finbarrs, Cemetry, Cork, Cork, Ireland.
Just checked the Municipal records for this cemetery but she's not there
although the images are quite difficult to read.

Thanks for checking Jim, long shot really, thought it might be unlikely to travel back with her body at that time  :'(

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Re: Gertrude Mary Giltinan
« Reply #16 on: Monday 25 March 24 17:58 GMT (UK) »
The 2nd. Western Gen. Hosp. was split into smaller sections all over Manchester.
It might be safe to say that all influenza patients were housed together.
Her death cert. will tell you her address at the time & one might assume again
it would be one the annexes.
she might have been buried in that area.
You won't know until you get it.
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
Census information is Crown copyright,from
www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/

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Re: Gertrude Mary Giltinan
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 26 March 24 11:20 GMT (UK) »
I've looked again at the official record and it seems the registration of her death at Chorley erroneously gives her date of birth which seems incorrect.

I am indeed looking for the VAD Nurse of that name, probably born 1889, so about 29 at her death.