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Help to decipher two lines in a will
« on: Friday 29 March 24 19:58 GMT (UK) »
I'm trying to establish the relationship of the Morgans named in the attached will to the person who made the will (Thomas Williams). I believe the Morgans might be related to his wife Margaret, but can't be sure.

Here are the lines. I need help with filling in the blanks.

"...I give and bequeath to and among the ____ of my ____ _____ Anne Morgan the widow of the late Reverend Richard Morgan of _________ ______ _____ the sum..."


Thanks in advance for any help you're able to provide.



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Re: Help to decipher two lines in a will
« Reply #1 on: Friday 29 March 24 20:15 GMT (UK) »
... among the children of my deceased niece Anne Morgan the widow
of the late Revd. Richard Morgan of Ma......ydd clerk dec[eas]ed...

Ma......ydd is probably a Welsh place-name which I do not recognise, others may be able to help.

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Re: Help to decipher two lines in a will
« Reply #2 on: Friday 29 March 24 20:18 GMT (UK) »
... I give and bequeath to and among
the children of my deceased niece Anne Morgan the widow
of the late Reverend Richard Morgan of _________ clerk ___
the sum

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Re: Help to decipher two lines in a will
« Reply #3 on: Friday 29 March 24 20:19 GMT (UK) »
Maesnewydd I think
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Re: Help to decipher two lines in a will
« Reply #4 on: Friday 29 March 24 20:21 GMT (UK) »
Yes, I also think it’s Maesnewydd
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Re: Help to decipher two lines in a will
« Reply #5 on: Friday 29 March 24 20:22 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Zefiro, MollyC, Raybistre & JenB!

Very helpful, I didn't expect anyone to get the Welsh house name.


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Re: Help to decipher two lines in a will
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 31 March 24 05:27 BST (UK) »
Thank you Zefiro, MollyC, Raybistre & JenB!

Very helpful, I didn't expect anyone to get the Welsh house name.

There are some amazing people here!

Now that they have solved it, here's a clipping for your files:

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Re: Help to decipher two lines in a will
« Reply #7 on: Monday 01 April 24 16:23 BST (UK) »

There are some amazing people here!

Now that they have solved it, here's a clipping for your files:


Thanks for that clipping bbart

It's actually thrown a bit of a spanner in the works because I thought Anne Morgan's (née Williams) father was one of the other famous brothers (David) of Swyddffynnon/Ystradmeurig - not John.

The John Williams of Ystradmeurig, as mentioned in the newspaper clip, has a bio on the Welsh Biography website which lists his children: https://biography.wales/article/s-WILL-JOH-1745 - and Anne isn't one.

Might have to do a bit more research! Thanks again.

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Re: Help to decipher two lines in a will
« Reply #8 on: Monday 01 April 24 19:27 BST (UK) »
The news reporter could have been wrong... it wouldn't be the first time!