Author Topic: George White, Scottish Rifles. Help Please  (Read 1065 times)

Offline auntya

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 45
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
George White, Scottish Rifles. Help Please
« on: Monday 01 April 24 18:35 BST (UK) »
Hoping you kind folks can help me.

Been searching for George White for a while now, with limited success.
I know he was in the Scottish Rifles as per his marriage certificate of 1905 which shows him as a Private at Maryhill Barracks, Glasgow.
By 1911 he is living at Hamilton Barracks, his occupation, Army Bugler but then moves back to Maryhill.

I’ve looked for him in WW1 Service Records so far without success but I’ve recently come across an entry for a George White, Service Number 7158, Scottish Rifles in WW1 Pension Ledgers & Index Cards and wondered if he could be who I’m looking for.

Does anyone have access to these records who would be willing to take a look?

I don’t know what information it may hold or how I could prove it was the correct person. 
He was married to Margaret H Cameron and had 7 children (that I know of). Also, on one of his childrens birth certificates (1917) it states he was a Corporal, 3rd Battalion Scottish Rifles but also at Tramcar Conductor ???

I would be so grateful if anyone could help me.

Offline Ashtone

  • RootsChat Aristocrat
  • ******
  • Posts: 1,746
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: George White, Scottish Rifles. Help Please
« Reply #1 on: Monday 01 April 24 18:41 BST (UK) »
What is his birth year and birth place? Quite a few men with his name in the Scottish Rifles (Cameronians) at the time.

Offline *Sandra*

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 58,890
  • Marie Curie
    • View Profile
Re: George White, Scottish Rifles. Help Please
« Reply #2 on: Monday 01 April 24 18:54 BST (UK) »
Just small snippets for now  - there is a date 28-3-19 - not sure what that relates to.

Sgt George White - 7158 - Scottish Rifles - The address seems to be 17 Shawpark Street. Maryhill. Glasgow. 

PPS 5781 amalgamated 7158   -  SAL 8794 crossed thru - underneath 1 MW / 3860

Maybe Ashtone could elaborate further........

marriage - George White - Margaret Harris Cameron - 1905 - 622 / 1 / 312 Maryhill

Sandra

Might be a son - ???

UK, Commonwealth War Graves, 1914-1921 and 1939-1947

Memorial Register Portsmouth

WHITE, William, Able Seaman, P/JX 380256, Penelope, 18 February 1944, ship loss, MPK
"We search for information, but the burden of proof is always with the thread owner"

Census information is Crown Copyright  http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

British Census copyright The National Archives; Canadian Census copyright Library and Archives Canada

Offline Ashtone

  • RootsChat Aristocrat
  • ******
  • Posts: 1,746
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: George White, Scottish Rifles. Help Please
« Reply #3 on: Monday 01 April 24 18:58 BST (UK) »
Britain, First World War Campaign Medals
George White
Acting Sergeant
Previous unit: 1/Sco. Rifles 7158 Pte


Offline *Sandra*

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 58,890
  • Marie Curie
    • View Profile
Re: George White, Scottish Rifles. Help Please
« Reply #4 on: Monday 01 April 24 19:37 BST (UK) »
UK, World War I Pension Ledgers and Index Cards, 1914-1923

Sgt George White - 1883
Residence Place   Maryhill Glasgow
Military Service Region   Scotland, Scotland
Military Country   Scotland
Discharge Date   28 Jul 1919
Service Number   7158 - Corps, Regiment or Unit   Scottish Rifles -  (Cameronians)
Service Branch   Military (Army)
Reference Number   1/Mw3860

Sandra
"We search for information, but the burden of proof is always with the thread owner"

Census information is Crown Copyright  http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

British Census copyright The National Archives; Canadian Census copyright Library and Archives Canada

Offline auntya

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 45
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: George White, Scottish Rifles. Help Please
« Reply #5 on: Monday 01 April 24 20:40 BST (UK) »
Oh my goodness!
I can’t believe how quickly you’ve all replied. Thank you so much.

Sandra…..George & family were definitely at 17 Shawpark St in the 1921 census
Do you know what PPS, SAL and MW mean. Did he have different service numbers and if so, why?

Ashtone…. George was born 1882/3 Baptised 3/1/1883 at Lambeth, London. Was baptised Stephen George but was known as George. Parents were Stephen and Eliza Ann.
Why he ended up in Scotland is a mystery.

So excited. It looks like it could be the right George!


Offline *Sandra*

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 58,890
  • Marie Curie
    • View Profile
Re: George White, Scottish Rifles. Help Please
« Reply #6 on: Monday 01 April 24 20:57 BST (UK) »
Probably need someone who understands military.


The reference Number on the UK, World War I Pension Ledgers and Index Cards, 1914-1923  was  1/Mw3860

 UK, World War I Service Medal and Award Rolls, 1914-1920

George White
Military Year   1914-1920
Rank   Acting Sergeant - Company   WO 329
Regiment or Corps   Scottish Rifles (Cameronians)
Regiment Number   7158
Medal Awarded   British War Medal and Victory Medal

-  SAL 8794 crossed thru - underneath 1 MW / 3860  is a reference no


"We search for information, but the burden of proof is always with the thread owner"

Census information is Crown Copyright  http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

British Census copyright The National Archives; Canadian Census copyright Library and Archives Canada

Offline Ashtone

  • RootsChat Aristocrat
  • ******
  • Posts: 1,746
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: George White, Scottish Rifles. Help Please
« Reply #7 on: Monday 01 April 24 21:01 BST (UK) »
Sandra - can you upload the image/snippet for the following, which you mention above. Thanks!

PPS 5781 amalgamated 7158   -  SAL 8794 crossed thru - underneath 1 MW / 3860

Offline *Sandra*

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 58,890
  • Marie Curie
    • View Profile
Re: George White, Scottish Rifles. Help Please
« Reply #8 on: Monday 01 April 24 21:12 BST (UK) »

Sorry, havent got a fold 3 subscription but managed to read some information  :-\
"We search for information, but the burden of proof is always with the thread owner"

Census information is Crown Copyright  http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

British Census copyright The National Archives; Canadian Census copyright Library and Archives Canada