Alice Kershaw Musk - Rawtenstall

[wilcoxon]

Lets hope it is.. Hopefully they can be found in later census.

[Road Runner]

Finally, the marriage certificate has arrived and may well have solved the problem regarding Alice Kershaw Musk.

Elizabeth Jane Kershaw who I believe was Alice’s mother married George Barnes in 1887 and the witnesses were her brother Timothy and sister Jane. Her father is given as Thomas Kershaw, quarryman, deceased. All the information is correct.

However, by 1891 George Barnes is back home and is recorded as a widower. A search of the Lancashire BMD shows an Elizabeth Jane Barnes died in 1889.

I suspect that Alice remained with the Kershaw family after the death of her mother.

I don't think I can go any further on this so I would like to thank all who participated and provided help and suggestions.

Very much appreciated

[wilcoxon]

I had looked at that. Was George a soldier.
If so he has an interesting tale.
Born in Guernsey,  Channel Isles. He is easy to follow up if you want.
At least you did the right thing with the marriage .

[heywood]

Thanks for letting us know.
I don’t understand though where the name Musk comes from, particularly as the birth address is where the Musk family lived.
Do you think that the father was a Musk and Elizabeth (note she wasn’t naned as Elizabeth Jane) called herself by the father’s name but didn’t name him?
Did the birth certificate give any status for the mother?

[Road Runner]

I attempted to follow all the "Elizabeth Jane Musk’s" and they all appeared to happily marry, move on and have children of their own. No sign of an Alice Keshaw Musk.

My suspicion is that Elizabeth may have used the surname Musk to register the child so Alice had her father’s surname, but within the family Alice remained as a Kershaw.

Also, there is no Alice Kershaw Musk to be found other than on a birth and marriage certificate.

Until someone successfully links to her through a DNA match, I can only wait and see how it plays out.
Thanks

[heywood]

Thanks, yes we had found those details.
I just thought that on Alice Kershaw Musk’s birth, with that name, her mother was named Elizabeth Musk, no Jane. Was she recorded as single?

[Road Runner]

I may have gone down a rabbit hole and not for the first time, but I have come to the conclusion that Elizabeth Kershaw Musk gave a false name when registering Alice so that she had her father's surname, Musk.
There are a number of Elizabeth Musk’s in the area at that time but I have been unable to find any tangible link to Alice.
Alice's BC says mother Elizabeth Kershaw Musk naming her as Alice Kershaw Musk, father's name omitted.

As I said earlier, I cannot find Alice Kershaw Musk in the census and she only appears with that name on her BC and MC.

(Alice's BC says mother Elizabeth Musk, no middle name Jane.)

In the 1881 census it shows an Elizabeth J Kershaw

Looking at the Lancashire BMD indexes for the year: 1861
Name:   KERSHAW   Elizabeth Jane
Mother:     MARSDEN
Year:    1861   
District:   Darwen   Blackburn   

Elizabeth’s parents were Ann Marsden and Thomas Kershaw.

Elizabeth Jane Kershaw married a George Barnes in 1887 but died a couple of years later in 1889.

That is all the information I have in trying to discover who her mother was. Was she a Kershaw or a Musk?

Regards

[heywood]

I understand now. I had it in my head that she just called herself Elizabeth Musk but if she was using Kershaw as a middle name, it might be as you say.
Apologies.