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Unknown surname - are they the same person?
« on: Thursday 04 April 24 07:27 BST (UK) »
Hi,

I can't read a surname of this person or persons, can anyone help? I'm unsure if they are the same people. Would appreciate any assistance!  :)

First/second image: 1901 Census, zoomed version and the full entry for this household. Details:
Piece   3482
Folio   169
Page number   43
Household schedule number   253

6 House, 2 Court, Portland Street, Liverpool

Edward Hindley, Head, Single, 19, Dock Labourer, Worker, Liverpool
Mary Flannery, Boarder, Widow, 57, - , -, Liverpool
James Hindley, brother, Single, 16, Dock Labourer, Worker, Liverpool
Patrick McDermott, Boarder, single, 22, Dock Labourer, Worker, Liverpool
Patrick ?, Boarder, Single, 19, Dock Labourer, Worker, Liverpool


Third/fourth image: zoomed in name and full document. Parish marriage record, as it's Catholic, some of it is in Latin, even the name forms, including Patrick.

28 September 1901
Edward Hindley, 1 Court, 6 House, Great Richmond Street, son of Charles Hindley
Bridget McGovern, 6 Court, 16 House, Comus Street, daughter of Martin McGovern

Witnesses:
Patrick [?] of 5 Buckingham Terrace
Anna Murphy, of 1 [?] Street.

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Re: Unknown surname - are they the same person?
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 04 April 24 07:33 BST (UK) »
I'd look at electoral registers or any other doc's like GRO index BMD's Parish baptisms. marriages & burials or local newspapers search at the addresses

Patrick Thornton or Thornson (using long s )or Thornbin

2nd image suggests the  dot over an 'i' (ending bin)or cross over a 't' (ending ton)but the first image
 no dot could end in 'son'

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Re: Unknown surname - are they the same person?
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 04 April 24 08:11 BST (UK) »
There is a burial for Patrick Thornton, 30yrs, from the Workhouse, in Anfield Cemetery, February 1911.
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Re: Unknown surname - are they the same person?
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 04 April 24 09:32 BST (UK) »

Anna Murphy, of 1 [?] Street.

I think Anna MURPHY is of 1 Travis Street


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Re: Unknown surname - are they the same person?
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 04 April 24 09:41 BST (UK) »

Agree with maddys52.

1 Travis Street

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Re: Unknown surname - are they the same person?
« Reply #5 on: Friday 05 April 24 11:26 BST (UK) »
Thank you all for your assistance!  :)