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Re: Lloyd Family, Ffestiniog
« Reply #9 on: Friday 05 April 24 22:04 BST (UK) »
There's a Gwen Roberts baptised in 1846 and a Hugh in 1851 in Ffestiniog to Robert, a quarryman and Ellin. Address Tre'r Ffynnon

I can find a Gwen the right age with mother Ellin on 1851 in Trawsfynydd, but mother is a widow,  the wrong age and has no other children with her.

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Re: Lloyd Family, Ffestiniog
« Reply #10 on: Friday 05 April 24 22:13 BST (UK) »
Was looking at this earlier but ages are all wrong. Maybe the enumerator got the children age wrong way round

1851 - Treffynon, Festiniog
Piece 2512, Folio 296, Page number 66

Ellinor Lloyd 56 Head widow, Festiniog
Hugh Lloyd   11   Son "
Richard Lloyd 4 Son "

Added: think the age for Ellin is 36 not 56 as transcribed

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Re: Lloyd Family, Ffestiniog
« Reply #11 on: Friday 05 April 24 22:37 BST (UK) »
Was looking at this earlier but ages are all wrong. Maybe the enumerator got the children wrong way round

1851 - Treffynon, Festiniog
Piece 2512, Folio 296, Page number 66

Ellinor Lloyd 56 Head widow, Festinog
Hugh Lloyd   11   Son "
Richard Lloyd 4 Son "

Added: think the age for Ellin is 36 not 56 as transcribed

Cas

Agree on the age for Ellin

Possible for Robert?

Piece 2512, Folio 220, p   31
Rhydsarn  Festiniog

Gainor Isaac  77 widow, tanner  (transcribed as Garner by Ancestry)  b Llanfihangel
Humphrey Pugh   88  Lodger  b Maentwrog
Robet Rwlaret [Robert Roberts]   9    Nephew  b Festiniog

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Re: Lloyd Family, Ffestiniog
« Reply #12 on: Friday 05 April 24 22:41 BST (UK) »
Robert Roberts
Age    38
Burial    23 Feb 1849, Maentwrog
Address  Treffynnon


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Re: Lloyd Family, Ffestiniog
« Reply #13 on: Friday 05 April 24 22:46 BST (UK) »
Robert Roberts
Age    38
Burial    23 Feb 1849, Maentwrog
Address  Treffynnon


Good find MB..ties it nicely
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Re: Lloyd Family, Ffestiniog
« Reply #14 on: Friday 05 April 24 23:46 BST (UK) »
Oh! boy, just got back in but had to have a look. So complicated but it looks? so right? for me its the  Maentwrog the Treffynnon and the Rhydsarn that seems to tie it together.

Need to take a long hard look tomorrow but it looks like the rootschat sleuths have done it again!!

Thanks all

Ray
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Re: Lloyd Family, Ffestiniog
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 06 April 24 00:09 BST (UK) »
Name   Gwen Roberts
Death Age   2
Record Type   Burial
Birth Date   1845
Death Date   abt 1847
Burial Date   2 Jan 1847
Burial Place   Ffestiniog, Merionethshire, Wales
Abode Treffynnon

2 possible birth 1845 mmn Lloyd in Festiniog

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Re: Lloyd Family, Ffestiniog
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 06 April 24 00:38 BST (UK) »
There seems to have been another son Hugh

ROBERTS, HUGH    mmn   LLOYD 
GRO Reference: 1843  J Quarter in FESTINIOG  Volume 27  Page 171

Name   Hugh Roberts
Death Age   2
Record Type   Burial
Birth Date   1843
Death Date   abt 1845
Burial Date   10 May 1845
Burial Place   Maentwrog, Merionethshire, Wales
Abode Rhydysarn

I think there is a possibility that the second Hugh may have been born after Robert Roberts death

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Re: Lloyd Family, Ffestiniog
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 06 April 24 07:06 BST (UK) »
Was looking at this earlier but ages are all wrong. Maybe the enumerator got the children wrong way round

1851 - Treffynon, Festiniog
Piece 2512, Folio 296, Page number 66

Ellinor Lloyd 56 Head widow, Festinog
Hugh Lloyd   11   Son "
Richard Lloyd 4 Son "

Added: think the age for Ellin is 36 not 56 as transcribed

Cas

Agree on the age for Ellin

Possible for Robert?

Piece 2512, Folio 220, p   31
Rhydsarn  Festiniog

Gainor Isaac  77 widow, tanner  (transcribed as Garner by Ancestry)  b Llanfihangel
Humphrey Pugh   88  Lodger  b Maentwrog
Robet Rwlaret [Robert Roberts]   9    Nephew  b Festiniog

Death of Gainor Lloyd (not sure why she is Isaac in 1851, but have seen grandchild described as niece/nephew) Think the enumerater had a few to many tipples on this 1851 Festiniog route  ???

Name   Gainor Lloyd
Death Age   81
Record Type   Burial
Birth Date   1774
Death Date   abt 1855
Burial Date   16 Apr 1855
Burial Place   Maentwrog, Merionethshire, Wales
Page number   58
Abode Rhydysarn

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Lewis - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd/Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland